Help with identifying a fusee pocket watch please

[jojenn]

I picked up this "small hanging clock". When I got it home, I discovered it to be a fusee pocket watch placed in a wooden frame. It still works (face down). I would welcome any assistance in identfying the watch - my searches have failed to come up with anything.
The name on the watch would appear to be:
JOHAN CHRIS, WEISS
RIS VER BESERT
And any opinion on whether this is a "classic" and should be looked at by a professional or if it is an unremarkable watch that I can practice on myself would also be welcome.
Thanks in advance . . . .

 

[Nedredbeard]

It works with that rusty chain? I don't think I would wind it until you get the rust situation under control. If that chain snaps at full wind, it has the potential to take out some pivots.

 

[Omexa]

Hi jojenn, it is a nice early Verge Fusee, I would not use it for practice, one has to be skilled in Early Verges to work on this type of movement. It should be looked at by a professional Watchmaker who is familiar with this type of movement. Probably c1770-80. Could be earlier. It is a Pocket Watch movement that has been put into a Clock. If you look at the movement you can see where the Hinge and locking part used to be. Regards Ray

 

[gmorse]

Hi jojenn,

Certainly not something to practice on! However it does need some urgent attention to at least stabilise the corrosion, which looks pretty severe, so I should seek some professional advice, but I'm afraid that a restoration will be expensive. As for dates, I'd go rather earlier than Ray, possibly before 1740, although it doesn't have an English signature, albeit having many English features, so some of the dating clues may not apply.

Regards,

Graham

 

[Les harland]

Jojenn
Get it looked at by a professional
It is not a watch you can practice on
Looking at the fifth picture it looks as if it could break at any time so it is best not to run it
It certainly is a "classic"

 

[jojenn]

Many thanks to you all for taking the time to reply to my question. You will, I am sure, be relieved to hear that I will be seeking professional assistance with this one.

 

[Michal13]

It needs professional care. Dates roughly 1700-1720.

Beautiful work on the engraving.