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Help with George Washington & his watch chains

aucaj

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I recently came across an interesting jeweler's receipt that auctioned by Christie's last month.

Per the description:
"The bill includes £9-1-6 for "one Gold Chane," 5 shillings for "Engraving Cypher on other Sides," as well as 9 pence for "velvet rebon." On the verso of the invoice, Washington added a docket for filing: "Rect Joseph Cook £9 7 3 10th Aug[SUP]t [/SUP]1787." Washington's pocket book of daily expenses from the Constitutional Convention records a payment to Joseph Cook a week later on 18 August: "By Cash pd … for gold Watch Chain } 9-7-3." (Papers, Confed. Ser., Philadelphia Cash Accounts, 5:176)"

What caught my attention was "Engraving Cypher on other Sides". I wonder what the cypher was? I don't see the chain photographed or mentioned with the recorded pocket watches owned by Washington:



He bought this watch chain on August 10th 1787. I know a year later on 28 November 1788 , he asked Gov. Morris to purchase a new watch for him on his trip to France.



I wonder if he used this chain with this last and final watch he owned? If you look at this next link, it appears to have a ribbon but no gold chain attached to his final watch:

In 2008, the National Watch and Clock Museum in Columbia, PA presented Time in Office: An Exhibit of Presidential Timepieces. The link to the publications seems to be flawed. Does anyone have any information from this exhibit?
Noel Poirier seems to have been involved and had direct contact with one of Washington's watches:

I am really curious to know what the Cypher was that he had engraved. If anyone has any insight into where this watch chain is today, I would appreciate it.

As a side note:
In 1794, Washington's last remaining natural tooth was pulled by his Dentist, Dr. John Greenwood. With Washington's permission, Greenwood kept the tooth and had it put on his watch chain. You can see it in the link below:


Kind Regards,
Chris
 
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Incroyable

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Perhaps it was his coat of arms?

Many early upper class American families had coat of arms.

 

rstl99

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I recently came across an interesting jeweler's receipt that auctioned by Christie's last month.

Per the description:
"The bill includes £9-1-6 for "one Gold Chane," 5 shillings for "Engraving Cypher on other Sides," as well as 9 pence for "velvet rebon." On the verso of the invoice, Washington added a docket for filing: "Rect Joseph Cook £9 7 3 10th Aug[SUP]t [/SUP]1787." Washington's pocket book of daily expenses from the Constitutional Convention records a payment to Joseph Cook a week later on 18 August: "By Cash pd … for gold Watch Chain } 9-7-3." (Papers, Confed. Ser., Philadelphia Cash Accounts, 5:176)"

What caught my attention was "Engraving Cypher on other Sides". I wonder what the cypher was? I don't see the chain photographed or mentioned with the recorded pocket watches owned by Washington:



He bought this watch chain on August 10th 1787. I know a year later on 28 November 1788 , he asked Gov. Morris to purchase a new watch for him on his trip to France.



I wonder if he used this chain with this last and final watch he owned? If you look at this next link, it appears to have a ribbon but no gold chain attached to his final watch:

In 2008, the National Watch and Clock Museum in Columbia, PA presented Time in Office: An Exhibit of Presidential Timepieces. The link to the publications seems to be flawed. Does anyone have any information from this exhibit?
Noel Poirier seems to have been involved and had direct contact with one of Washington's watches:

I am really curious to know what the Cypher was that he had engraved. If anyone has any insight into where this watch chain is today, I would appreciate it.

As a side note:
In 1794, Washington's last remaining natural tooth was pulled by his Dentist, Dr. John Greenwood. With Washington's permission, Greenwood kept the tooth and had it put on his watch chain. You can see it in the link below:


Kind Regards,
Chris
Fascinating research you've done on this Chris. Can't help you on the cypher but I enjoyed your investigative work on this, as well as be reminded that Washington's last watch was made by Jean-Antoine Lépine, a parisian maker I have great fondness for.
Good luck with the continuation of your research on this.
Robert
 

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