Help with 14k Pocket Watch Identification .."Chronometer" on dial and movement

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  1. mrbillscoins&collectibles

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    Hi! I work for a local Coin and Collectible business and I bought this watch over the counter today, and needed some help with Identifying this Watch. it does use a lever to set the time or to wind it. Nutjob

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  2. Dave Coatsworth

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    I believe this watch is European, so I am going to move it over to that forum for better help.
     
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    Hi mrbillscoins&collectibles and wellcome to this message board ! Please post more pics of the movement especially the balance wheel from different angles.It looks as if it was indeed a chronometer escapement/pivoted detent. Best would be pics if the watch is not running.If it is a chronometer escapement You ´d have a verry desirable watch (in my eyes at least)
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  5. Jerry Treiman

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    These are definitely European, but yours is finished for an English-speaking market. Some are marked "Chronometre" and some, like yours, "Chronometer". I have seen several examples of this same basic movement - all with pivoted detent escapement and helical hairspring. I suspect the movements were bought and finished by various finishers and the quality can be quite variable. I have, unfortunately, one of the cheaper versions. Yours appears to be finished to a considerably higher level than mine. Most that I have seen have a nickel finish, but I think the gilt finish on yours looks better. I don't think it is a high-end chronometer but is one of the better finished versions of this model.
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  6. Dr. Jon

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    Jerry has it right. These were popular in the late 1800's and turn of the 20th century. These pivoted detent escapements. The lever on the bezel is for setting.

    These are decent quality timepieces but by this time testing, especially at Neuchatel had shown that the pivoted detent was not as good as the lever for precision timekeeping.

    It became a relatively cheap way to offer a timepiece that could truly be called a chronometer, not a cheap watch, but less expensive than making a lever watch that could pass Swiss Observatory tests for a a lever chronometer.
     
  7. MartyR

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    The watch case is 14 karat solid gold.
     
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