Welch Please ID this Clock American Help understanding what model Welch, Spring, and Co shelf clock I have

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  1. Derek Frewert

    Derek Frewert New Member

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    Hello,

    I acquired this case and have been doing my best to understand what it is and how to find parts for it. Most recently I was shown that it is very similar to a Welch, Spring, and Co Calendar No 3 only made as a shelf clock. It is right at 44" tall and does have one pulley but with the wind position @ 2 o'clock I can't find anything that gets me closer to being able to rebuild this.

    Any help you can offer would be appreciated. If I can understand what it is I will then be able to start my hunt.

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  2. bruce linde

    bruce linde Technical Admin
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    it appears to have started out as a welch spring & co. regulator 3, but everything under the the bottom door was added to the case... and they wouldn't have used a plywood back, and the back and top would have been finished the same as the front. someone has gotten creative.

    the original no. 3 movement (and dial) would have had two winding arbors (and pulleys), with the winding holes at 4 and 8... and a b.b. lewis calendar movement.

    it's hard to tell from the photos, but the dials look awfully clean... maybe someone configured the top dial to take a banjo clock (or other regulator) movement and had the dials re-painted.... in the no. 3 pictured in tran the calendar dial numbers are not all vertical. see the photo from (and link to) the clock guy: Antique Clocks Guy: We bring antique clocks collectors and buyers together. Always the highest quality antique clocks available.

    whatever movement you try and put in the top will need to be able to lift a rod once every 24 hours to trigger the calendar movement below... whether you use a bb lewis, an ST, an ithaca, etc. the welch spring and co. round head no. 4 is a relatively easy one to find online (and here on the message board) to see how they approached their double-dial calendar movements.

    i think if it were mine i would measure the distance from the center hole to winding arbor hole and look for a banjo clock or st regulator 2 movement that fit, and kludge something to hold a non-working calendar hand... unless you could come up (or had) a calendar movement and were into making the parts you needed to make them work together.

    it's a nice case, but presents some challenges...


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