Help to Identify Kundo Dome Clock

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  1. Dprams

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    #1 Dprams, Oct 23, 2019
    Hi there, would you be so kind as to help me identify my parent's clock please. They have had it sat in theor room for decades without fully knowing its history.

    I have no experience of these, but from your other threads, I am assuming that its a Kieninger & Obergfell anniversary clock. It has no identifiable stamps that I can see, just the serial number of 16434.

    I am then hoping to get it up and running for them, so they can really appreciate it as it should be.

    Hopefully the pictures that I have tried to attach are clear. If you need more then please ask.

    Any help that you can give would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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    #2 KurtinSA, Oct 23, 2019
    I can't convince myself this is a Kieninger & Oberfell...also can't really find a good enough matching plate in the guide. It's clear it is an early clock like the 1930s based upon no guide cup. The ratchet bridge doesn't look right...the finials at the top of the columns look unusual for this clock. I don't know enough about pendulum designs to see which manufacturer it would go to.

    Maybe someone has sharper eyes!

    Kurt
     
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    #3 Ingulphus, Oct 23, 2019
    Kundo always stamped their movements, with either their stylized KundO mark or the mark of the importer who sold the clocks. My first guess was Schlenker und Posner, but their pendulum design is quite different.
     
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    #4 Dprams, Oct 23, 2019
    Thank you to you both. I appreciate any input to get to the bottom of this. I can supply more photos if necessary.
     
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    #5 KurtinSA, Oct 23, 2019
    I think this is a good possibility...I also thought the same thing but the pendulum was different. So maybe the OPs pendulum has been replaced. If it is SuP, then the serial number dates it to about 1931.

    Kurt
     
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    #6 Dprams, Oct 23, 2019
    The reason for my initial thoughts were based on this thread of a similar looking clock that did have a stamp. However, as you imply the pendulum does look different...
    (Thank you again for your help)
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    #7 etmb61, Oct 23, 2019
    Dprams,

    Your clock is by Schlenker and Posner. No doubt about that. The pendulum you have is a JUF part. What you should have is this pendulum:

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    Not painted of course.

    Here is one of mine with the correct pendulum for comparison:

    Schlenker & Posner 15733

    The SEPO catalog has a similar clock with a roman dial No 404B or "SWANOB".

    Eric
     
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    #8 Dprams, Oct 24, 2019
    Thank you Eric, your expertise is much appreciated.
     
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