Help..Please help identify this yard sale school house clock

[John in Va]

I picked this up at a yard sale. It is a school house clock. No dial or suspension spring. The movement has the letter "N" and under that the number 12. That is all I can find. Also the arbor where the suspension spring would go is angled and not straight up and down. Finally whatever suspension spring I can install would hit the spring winding arbor. It would not hang unobstructed. I am a new to this and can not see how this clocks suspension spring would hang...even if I were to straighten the arbor slot so it is straight up and down. Can anyone help ID the clock, and also explain this different suspension spring configuration ? See pics

 

[Willie X]

John,

Might be a Sessions movement.

The suspension spring / pendulum rod is missing in the picture. The suspension spring is actually part of the pendulum rod and fits into the little slotted post just south of the hand-shaft. It extends downward a short distance and then makes a half circle curve around the left side of the winding arbor and then goes down through the little loop on the crutch. The pendulum hangs on a hook formrd at the bottom of this rod.

Is this part missing?

Not sure what you are calling the "arbor slot".

Don't "straighten" anything until you see a picture, or drawing, of exactly how your clock's escapement parts are supposed to look, and function.

Just about anything you can think of is available on this list but you will have to be patient and wait for the different clock people to chime in. No one person has all the info, it is a group effort.

Good luck, Willie X

 

[eskmill]

Welcome to the NAWCC Message Board John.

I cannot tell which company made your time-only school clock.

But to reply to your question about the angle of where the "feather" of the suspension spring would be bound is not unusual. Many of these simple clocks have the movement mounted on an angle. It's odd as it puts the winding arbor at 5:00 O'Clock or Seven O'clock.

Look at the screw holes in the clock case to see where the movement was situated.

Yet another way makers got around the winding arbor was to put a "hickey" in the suspension rod.....many Korean made clocks have the semi-circular bend in the suspension rod to get clear of the center arbor and hands shaft.

I am sure that others more familiar with school-house clocks will provide a good clue as to who made the movement you've found.

 

[Richard T.]

Hello and Welcome to the NAWCC message board.

You have recieved good advice thus far.

American as well as Korean (Asian) clocks both had the type suspension rod mentioned above.

Ansonia and New Haven were two and there very well may be others as well.

It would look something like the photos below and could have either a hook or an inverted "T" where the pendulum would hang.....in your case I think a hook or a closed loop would be what is needed.

These suspension feathers come in more than one configuration and if none of these is correct one must be made from a suspension feather/rod. This would be done by bending a new suspension feather/rod in the correct place to provide clearance for the winding arbor.

Best,

Richard T.

 

[Steven Thornberry]

John: I would think that your clock might be an Ansonia. Check, for example, this thread. Seems to be the same or similar movement. That said, it would be good to see the case itself. Always need to hedge our bets a bit, and the case might provide further clues.

 

[John in Va]

I am impressed by the quick replies to my problem. Thank you all for your thoughts. I do see this is a collaboration and how it works. Thank you all !
I think Steve nailed it as an ansonia which is mounted with a tilt. The picture you had in the thread is identical to my school house and when I line up the holes it is tilted like your picture. So thanks all, I hope to return the favor on this board. Once I learn how to navigate it more efficiently. Thank you , much appreciated !