Help me date this estate sale find

[Greg Burton]

I’m fairly certain this is a French bracket clock despite the resemblance to English regency style. The movement is the giveaway, the bezel is long gone but otherwise it’s in great shape and had been recently serviced. There were several really nice clocks in this home ranging from an Irish tall case to an Aaron Willard.

Movement

• Greg Burton
• Nov 23, 2018

Movement

• Greg Burton
• Nov 23, 2018

Clock case

• Greg Burton
• Nov 23, 2018

 

[novicetimekeeper]

It's probably more Edwardian than Regency. You tend to find the silvered dial ones are much later.

 

[Greg Burton]

Actually it is a brass dial, but I agree it is later than Regency.

 

[novicetimekeeper]

Actually it is a brass dial, but I agree it is later than Regency.

It is now, but it would more than likely have been silvered.

 

[Greg Burton]

Movement

• Greg Burton
• Nov 23, 2018

Movement

• Greg Burton
• Nov 23, 2018

Please! Help me identify this French Bracket clock. It is a recent estate sale find. Very different from the Edwardian George and revive a bracket clock with French movement that I own. And definitely very different from the circa 1800 Frenchsilk thread clock I own.

 

[JTD]

What makes you think this clock is French? To me this movement looks not French but German. Although I cannot enlarge the mark on the back plate very much, to me it looks very like M&H E, which is that of Maurer & Höfler, Eisenbach.

It would help to see the whole clock with its case.


JTD

 

[JTD]

No we seem to have two threads on the same clock, which is not helpful.

I have already replied to your other thread saying that I doubt this is a French movement. It seems to be marked M&H E, which is the mark of Maurer & Höfler, Eisenbach. (I'm not sure what you mean by 'the movement is the giveaway' )

Perhaps a moderator can amalgamate the two threads so as to avoid confusion and double postings.

JTD

 

[Chris Radano]

JTD, this clock is in the latest acquisition section, photo of case. The French square movement did not have screwed movement pillars, and different pendulum. The French movement design is older as well, and the German factories copied aspects of the French movements.

 

[zedric]

I’m with Chris and JTD, this looks German to me too

 

[Steven Thornberry]

I think JTD has correctly identifies the logo as that of Maurer & Höfler, Eisenbach. See below the logo found at mikrolisk.de. Although this one is shown in a triangle, it is not unknown for logos on movements to vary slightly from those on labels and elsewhere. The peculiar hour-glass shape of the ampersand, however, seems the same as on Greg's clock movement.



I have merged the two threads.

 

[Greg Burton]

First, my apology for the two threads. It seemed the first was a,niguousmasmto my real question regarding the nationality. I also should have confessed to being a wayward English Pocket watch collector who just recently started adding antique clocks to his obsession. The case looked Regency with its inlays, but the proportions were wrong and it was a double barrel not a fusee movement. So I was looking to the continent. I had just acquired for a song a lovely Georgian Revival bracket clock with a Newcastle retailer named on the dial. The movement is clearly French. I thought this could have been an earlier example of a French clock done for the English market. I researched bracket clocks on Google and found an example with identical movement and inlays. The case was the only difference. The site was one for comparing prices and said it was a “period French bracket clock”. I just went back and pulled the pictures back up. The original sale was from an individual EBay seller. No wonder it was wrong on the nationality.

Any thoughts as to dates? And thanks to all who responded for being so helpful.

 

[Greg Burton]

Here is apicture of the case. The side panels are Regency looking brass fish scale patterned.

 

[JTD]

The side panels are Regency looking brass fish scale patterned.

I think you should put the idea of Regency away - and the fish scale panels were used long after that time. I would guess your clock is around 1900 but could be a bit later or earlier.

I wonder if the handle on the top is original.

JTD

 

[Greg Burton]

Thanks, and I agree it is much later than Regency. The handle does appear to be original. The bezel is long gone, but there are no traces of the dial ever being silvered. The case is finished with either a French polish or a much better finish than the Edwardian Georgian revival bracket clock that is inMillersville, Md being serviced as I type. The proportions of the case are so different from English ones. Friends have a wonderful late 18th century German tall case clock. And the dimensions of the lower portion of the case are half the width of an British tall case. Interesting how national prefer need get expressed in clacks as well as furniture. I am very grateful for the information you provided.

 

[Chris Radano]

I would say the clock is Recency style. But would be considered a reproduction, or replica.