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I am wondering if that word might read GERMANY, but it is not very clear when I enlarge your picture, so it's just a suggestion.but we can't make out the text above it
Thank you very much, Ticktocktime and JTD! I appreciate your expertise!Hi,
A spectacular clock, congratulations! It looks very much like a Herschede product to me, and there are a number of people on this board who are particularly knowledgeable regarding this manufacturer and who will hopefully be along to identify the model and year of manufacture. Given that it dates to around 1910, give or take a few years, the Civil War story can be ruled out. Others will know more about the case, it is certainly less common. It is possibly a commission by the original owner, as I believe Herschede did sometimes make custom built cases but I may be wrong.
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Thank you very much for the info and the suggestion of contacting the Research Request people, Dwight. Much appreciated!The Patent Date on the striking Hammer I believe is referring to Patent #685045 for hammer strikers invented by Charles A. Jacques the Assignor for Bawo & Dotter Company. The Patent was granted in 1901 so the clock is more than likely from the early 1900's. Bawo & Dotter were in business making Hall Clocks from the 1860's until going out of business in 1932 under the name Guerin-Pouyat-Elite Ltd.. Feel free to send photographs and questions to our Research Request email on our website for this and future questions. We answer questions for NAWCC Members for free. Stay safe.
Good point about there being different names on the dial plaque, not just B&D. Thank you, ChimeClockFan!The dial plaque would read out 'Bawo & Dotter - Patentees & Makers' or the name of a retail company that sold the complete clock.
Many names have been found on the plaques including - but not limited to - Tobey Chicago, Tiffany & Co., and Hoover & Smith.
Movement was made by Mathias Bäuerle GmbH, St. Georgen (Germany) for Bawo & Dotter in New York as I just described above.
B&D would have assembled clocks using cases, movements, tube bells made by suppliers, it's as simple as that.
It is important to get the details straight as there's so much misinformation out there. Still get a kick out of that one guy who thought
his 1910's Monastery brand hall clock was made in an ancient German monastery. Hah.
Thank you for the badge photos! That explains the two holes near the indecipherable text above the serial number (photo attached). And "M. Baüerle" for the inscription makes perfect sense. I wonder if there is text beneath most badges on clocks? Yes, I do need to find a good clock repairman. One of the three weights had to be taken down because the cable was fraying. I'm so glad I found this group...I'll definitely check in with the NAWCC for a reputable repairman. Thank you, Isaac!Most likely it was stamped something along the lines of "M. Bäuerle" originally.
Sometimes there would be a badge attached (as aforementioned) that contains identification information. Here are examples of 2 of my "Peerless" grade chiming clocks. Both are of the same quality construction and design, but one has very nice finishing on the plates. I also have a lantern clock by Mathias Bauerle, also with the Peerless stamp (but no B&D markings).
I will add that your clock is very likely due for a service (even if it runs fine). Dirt and grime accumulate in the pivot holes and accelerate wear significantly. Find a reputable clock repairman near you (the NAWCC can help with this) to take a look at your fine clock.
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We have seen this before. The answer is ... we really don't know why. We can provide reasonable possibilities, but we don't know for sure.And why would anyone purposely scratch/deface the name?
My eyes make out what looks like 4 numbers, 7031. Could be a repair mark added later on (perhaps by the same person who obliterated the original stamp on the movement). Or my eyes could be deceiving me too. If there are numbers or a logo/trademark, someone had a very light touch.My eyes could be deceiving me (they often do ), but when I enlarge the last picture provided of the backplate, there appears to be a faint trademark above the '7' in the serial number and the scratched out / written over area.