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So my uncle owns a pawn shop and i work there and i always liked old pocket watches and things this was sitting in a cigar box that he had forgot about and he let me have it seeing how excited i was about it. I haven't been able to find any info on it any help would be great thanks.
Ethan,You could have a case made for the watch, but that likely would cost around $5000. So, restoration probably would cost $6,000-$10,000.
It will be the subject of one of my articles in Horological Fact or Fiction in 2022. The issue is analogous to the one in my September 2021 article there.No but it is usually in watches from Le Brassus. I saw one example in a very limited edition Audemars Piguet and Louis Elisee Piguet used it.
Perhaps Phil will elucidate further.
Got ya i definitely would want to to be upfront as possible because unfortunately me and my family could use the money more than the watch. I have two daughters and with covid i haven't been able to work as much between staying home with them im just now starting to get back on my feet.Dmoore36, I think you have only two choices if you cannot afford to undertake restoration, keep the movement as is, or sell it. If I were in you shoes, I'd sell it, but first I would pay to have an expert (e.g., Doug Shuman or Philip Poniz, if they would do it) cursorily examine the movement to see if it is complete and in good running order, and confirm that it is a sonnerie. That information almost certainly would increase the sales price by more than the cost of a cursory examination. Of course, there is a downside to seeking that information. If you find out that the watch is missing parts or isn't in good running order and you are candid about it, the watch may sell for less than it would if you sold it as is with no representation about completeness or running order, plus you would have had to pay to have the watch examined.
You have a nice movement circa 1865. Some say that Piguet Freres made the blank. Maybe they did, but there is no evidence to support it. Back then, a finished movement like that with a dial and hands, but without a case, cost 785CHF, twice what a finished minute repeater movement cost. I have seen quite a few of them retailed by Jurgensen, Nardin, unsigned, and others. The ones that are in still existing ledgers were bought from negociants, who sold them finished. So, we do not know who made the blank.Thank all of you for the help like i said i am very new to this. Any suggestions on what i should do with it or what its worth i dont think I would have the funds to have it fixed correctly and would love to see it back to its original glory thanks.
Thank you very much again.You have a nice movement circa 1865. Some say that Piguet Freres made the blank. Maybe they did, but there is no evidence to support it. Back then, the finished movement with a dial and hands, but without a case, cost 785CHF, twice what a finished minute repeater movement cost. I have seen quite a few of them retailed by Jurgensen, Nardin, unsigned, and others. The ones that are in still existing ledgers were bought from negociants, who sold them finished. So, we do not know who made the blank.
Today, the movements are bought often by people who case them in custom-made inexpensive wristwatch cases. I even know of one that they tried to sell as a Patek Philippe grande et petite sonnerie. I think a dealer from Russia. To build a well-made custom-made case will not pay off. The last one we made was over a decade ago, and it was for a really important watch that eventually sold for a lot of money.
But just in case, here you have how such a case should look like.
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