Help identifying maker - 14k Full Hunter retailed by Benedict Brothers, New York

Discussion in 'European & Other Pocket Watches' started by Springdale Ben, May 4, 2020.

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  1. Springdale Ben

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    Looks like an Agassiz.

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  3. Springdale Ben

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    Hi Ethan

    That’s great, thank you

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  4. Ethan Lipsig

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    Ben, I've just noticed that the hairspring stud on your watch is very different from the one on the Agassiz, suggesting that your watch may have come from another source, perhaps LeCoultre, and also suggesting that the Agassiz was based on a similar ebauche.
     
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    Thanks Ethan, good observation. Could it be Vacheron & Constantin private label or did they always sign their movements?
     
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    #6 Dr. Jon, May 4, 2020
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    I still like Agassiz. The hairspring stud is quite different but that does not rule out Agassiz. The Wittnauer Catalog of Agassiz parts shows some examples with this stud.
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    Here is closer view.

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    It is not all that clear in the enlargement. The cut on the right shows it by implication. The stud Ethan was looking for goes ito a notch cut into a wing off the balance cock.'
    Here is a better look.

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    The red arrow shows the wing. The more typicicl balance spring stud goes into a slot about where teh arrow head is. There would be two screw holes to secure the cover holding it. Instead they put in a single screw hole to the left of the arrow and mount the stud at the corner.


    I highly doubt this is a V&C. It does not look like a V&C. Agassiz had very strong distribution and representation in New York with Wittnauer and this type is in their catalog parts book.
     
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    Yes, this stud is so common anyone could use it. So it’s not a distinctive feature that could rule out one brand or another :)
     
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  8. Springdale Ben

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    Thank you all for the information and diagrams!
     

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