Help identifying/dating a Junghans wall clock

[rison123]

I was given a Junghans clock today at work. Nice clock, in decent shape. Wall clock, with the typical ornate top with finales. The face is marked Junghans. I pulled the movement off the rails and it is stamped on the rear with the 8 sided star, Junghans logo. Stenciled on the movement is 27 with a 66/70 beneath it. Can this info help identify the movement & date without photos? I have attached a couple photos. The tablet has a stencil which is on the outside of the glass which I thought odd. Something tells me this might be a knock off. While the logo is an 8 sided star, it doesn't math what I've seen in the msg board. More like 2 squares turned perpendicular, rather than the style from late 1800's to 1908. Hmmmmmm.......


thanks

 

[S1ider]

You could be right rison. Im no expert on Junghans but i cant find that mark anywhere. For some reason ive got it in my head ive seen it before though. Withough a pic of the case aswell its tough. Any chance of seeing the mark cleaned up ?

 

[rison123]

I'll get some complete pics of the case. Hopefully that will assist in identifying. I did notice there is a label on the back that says "No. 1901".

 

[rison123]

Attached more photos. Movement is filthy. After cleaning the logo a bit, it appears to be the 1898-1905 logo. Still find it odd the other data (27 66/70) is stenciled rather than stamped. Any insight would be helpful.

sorry - all photos came out sideways :bang:

 

[rison123]

I discovered this table from a previous post. It has similar nomenclature to markings on my movement. Can anyone decipher the meanings behind the numbers. The are no headings to determine what the numbers represent. I see 24-75/77. My movement has 27-66/70. Guessing these numbers won't date the movement, but what do they represent?

Any assistance would be appreciated

Tom H

 

[S1ider]

I dont know about those numbers but i do know Junghans brought out a dating system in i believe 1901 (could stand to be corrected on that) and thats not it. Those numbers could be things like pendulum length and teeth on the escape wheels etc. As you said earlier the etching on the outside of the glass is odd. But that could have been done at a later date. I see no reason why it couldnt be genuine. Ive been comparing the lettering of the Junghans mark to a couple of my own and they look pretty much spot on, its just that on yours the points of the star dont protrude as far. Personally i would say its right.

 

[S1ider]

Here is a Junghans clock with the same movement. I did find a better match for the case as well but because the auction is still running the link cant be posted.
Compare the movement on this one. Looks good to me. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antique-V...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

[rison123]

Here is a Junghans clock with the same movement. I did find a better match for the case as well but because the auction is still running the link cant be posted.
Compare the movement on this one. Looks good to me. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antique-V...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Thanks for all you assistance S1ider. Looks like I may have a keeper here. Work to be done!