Help identifying a pocket watch

cblakey1

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Has anyone ever seen one of these?

I've asked a lot of vintage healers and they haven't been able to come up with anything. Web searches have yielded nothing as well.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The watch is 1.75" tall, 1.25" wide.

The back snaps on and inside it says "14k 0.585, b6 8316"

Also has 533597 stamped near the bottom.

The movement has "metal" stamped on the outer rim.

It also looks like it is 15-17 jewel.

I've done some research and the shape and face looks similar to an "Election" wristwatch and I think I saw another reference to Patek/Cartier somewhere else.

[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr187/cblakey1/watch_fob.jpg[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr187/cblakey1/inside_mvt.jpg
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr187/cblakey1/inside_case.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr187/cblakey1/face_II.jpg

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cblakey1

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Sorry for the double post (here and EU watches). Just not sure of it's origin.

Has anyone ever seen one of these?

I've asked a lot of vintage healers and they haven't been able to come up with anything. Web searches have yielded nothing as well.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The watch is 1.75" tall, 1.25" wide.

The back snaps on and inside it says "14k 0.585, b6 8316"

Also has 533597 stamped near the bottom.

The movement has "metal" stamped on the outer rim.

It also looks like it is 15-17 jewel.

I've done some research and the shape and face looks similar to an "Election" wristwatch and I think I saw another reference to Patek/Cartier somewhere else.

[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr187/cblakey1/watch_fob.jpg[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr187/cblakey1/inside_mvt.jpg
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr187/cblakey1/inside_case.jpg
http://i482.photobucket.com/albums/rr187/cblakey1/face_II.jpg
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Jim Haney

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I moved your duplicate post to the European Section. You have a generic Swiss wristwatch movement mounted in a piece of Gold jewelry. The watch in itself doesn't have any great value. The value would be in the Gold.
Thanks
 

Burkhard Rasch

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it´ts a good quality mvmt.,though,compensation ballance and 18-19jewels,the e.w with an endstone.From the style of the mvmt.or case I´d guess 30ies-50ies.
Nice piece!
Burkhard
 

Ben Hsiung

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Like Jim already said, most will consider the watch mostly for the gold and not the true beauty and history behind it. I think chances are slim that it's related to Patek or Cartier, but I've seen some pretty freaky watch collaborations in the past to totally dismiss that notion. However, I do think that it is a watch movement with good quality, especially considering its size and vintage. The watch is most likely made in the 20-30s, custom designed and fitted with a good movement (also looks like escape cap jewel mount is missing).
 

cblakey1

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Is it common practice to take a wristwatch movement and convert it to a pw?

Also, how can you be sure this is European?

Thanks for the great comments folks! :D
 

richiec

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You can tell by the plate layout for the jewels, the use of F and S along with A and R (fast and slow, advance and retard). In most cases the American watchmakers stamped their names on their movements along with serial numbers.
 

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