Help identify maker of this movement

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  1. THTanner

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    The maker's mark looks like a prancing elk or deer

    Under that are what appear to be the initials T B

    below that on the back place says

    Patent
    22530 X

    thanks
    tom

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  2. JTD

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    This is the mark of Tobias Bäuerle.
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    Thanks - I was searching TB and found a few references but was not sure

    is the 22530 a serial or patent??
     
  4. JTD

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    Well it isn't a German patent (at least German patent 22530 is nothing to do with clocks, it's about air pistols). It might be the serial number. Could you post a photo of the back plate?

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  6. JTD

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    Thanks. The number is in the right place to be a serial number, despite the word Patent above. It might be a Deutsches Reichsgebrauchsmuster (DRGM) number, which wasn't really a patent but sometimes people pretended it was.

    I will have a look and see if I can find a DRGM with this number but it will take a little while.

    At the moment I am thinking 'serial number'.

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    Thanks for all the help - and no need to spend a bunch of time on it.

    The story on this movement is that I recently bought it on ebay where it was advertised as a Lenzkirch. I am looking for a time only Lenzkirch of about this size and spacing. When it came in and I saw the maker's mark and TB I knew it was not a Lenz, and thought the TB was for Tobias but I don't know much about either of the makers and thought maybe they were related.

    I have contacted the seller who now admits that he didn't know what it was and just guessed.

    Oh well - lesson learned - and now I have a nice Tobias in the collection
     
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    Yes Bäuerle clocks are well made and you should have a good clock. Bit surprised the seller just said it was a Lenzkirch without bothering to check...oh well.

    In the meantime I have searched what records I can for a DRGM with your number and there isn't one dealing with clocks. Some of the records are missing, but I think it safe to say that the number on your clock is a serial number. The word patent is just there as a 'scarecrow' I think.

    Hope you enjoy your clock.

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    Thanks so much JTD - I will give it a good service and test it out - perhaps find something to put it in. There are almost no dials or parts that I can find for a TB clock - but will take my time.
     
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    There is a marking that reads 14 cm.p ,I am wondering what that means.Also where did you acquire this movement?
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    14cm pendule.
     
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    Perhaps, but in German "P." would be "Pendel."
     
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    I acquired it on eBay about two weeks ago where it was listed as a Lenzkirch - it is the right size and the 1 1/4 inch distance between the center and the winding arbor are all correct for what I am looking for - but it is not a Lenzkirch so I will figure something else to do with it.
     
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    Yes.
    Tobias Bäuerle
    St. Georgien, Schwarzwald, Tyskland
    Manufactured battery driven movements from 1906 for the
    company Schneider & Wesenfeld
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    I have been searching everything I can for a simple, short pendulum, time only clock by TB. So far no luck. I did find this longer pendulum time only clock in a photo that clearly shows the hands and dial. I am wondering if TB used a lot of different hands, or if hands like these in the photo would most likely be correct.

    Also, someone on another forum said that this was likely in a round or hexagonal wall clock. Any ideas would be great.

    I have found a possibly correct dial - it is older and German made with the proper spacing for the hands and winding arbor, but I it does not look like the dial shown here. The search continues.

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