HELP! I can't get spindle into barrel propely and get the cap back on? What am I missing?

Probox

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Hi, I am working on a 340020 Hermle (this one marked Bulova ) movement. I removed the mainsprings from the three barrels for cleaning. There are three and these are the type that the arbor just pulls out and you can remove them from the movement while the movement is still together. The spindles are inside the barrel. I was careful to not mix the three up keeping them separate. I greased the springs, put them back into the barrels ok and two of the the large one and one small one are ok but one I cannot get the cap on because the spindle prevents it from going down all the way. I know it's not backwards because the spindle can only go in one way in order to turn the spring properly. What am I missing? I've done this procedure many times (not hundreds mind you) but I'm lost today. Any suggestions/observations would be appreciated. I am aware also that the two smaller sized spindles are different in that the shoulders are different but I tried interchanging them and I still can't reinstall properly?

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Hi, I am working on a 340020 Hermle (this one marked Bulova ) movement. I removed the mainsprings from the three barrels for cleaning. There are three and these are the type that the arbor just pulls out and you can remove them from the movement while the movement is still together. The spindles are inside the barrel. I was careful to not mix the three up keeping them separate. I greased the springs, put them back into the barrels ok and two of the the large one and one small one are ok but one I cannot get the cap on because the spindle prevents it from going down all the way. I know it's not backwards because the spindle can only go in one way in order to turn the spring properly. What am I missing? I've done this procedure many times (not hundreds mind you) but I'm lost today. Any suggestions/observations would be appreciated. I am aware also that the two smaller sized spindles are different in that the shoulders are different but I tried interchanging them and I still can't reinstall properly?

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Whoops, never mind, I found my mistake, I did get the spindles mixed up after all. The wrong spindle was in the large one I thought was done. Great when you fix your own mistakes. Lesson: some days you should just put down the tools and go read a book. Or golf.
 

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Probox you learned a good lesson.
 

Probox

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But did he? I did not see a mention of, "I will either mark them of keep them with their correct train parts".
Yeah, normally I do keep the trains separate but in this case I put the spindles in the same holder and didn't realize they were different shapes/shoulders. I learned!
 

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