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Head scratcher here....Need ID of make and such

comet61

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Inquiring for a person who just acquired this clock. Looks to be very high quality build and the movement is one I've never seen before of that design. In the lower left corner of the movement you can barely make out the word "Patented" 1880's something. No other mark could befound including a tag or such. Owner stated that it will run for 5 minutes then stop dead. Doesn't know if the chimes work at all. Any insight would be greatly helpful.

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T.Cu

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Hi, your friend might be the lucky owner of an Ansonia "Virginia", unless I am mistaken. Impressive clock!
 

Andy Dervan

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"Patented" may or may not mean anything as companies sometimes stamped it on plates. If it had a patent date it might be believable.

It is time and strike movement on a gong typical for the period - not chiming.

Andy Dervan
 

Steven Thornberry

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"Patented" may or may not mean anything as companies sometimes stamped it on plates. If it had a patent date it might be believable.
In the first post, comet61 said that one "can barely make out the word "Patented" 1880's something." That seems to indicate that a date was stamped on the plate. Two good possiblities come to mind. First US259505 of June 13, 1882, which seems to be the most commonly found patent date on Ansonia movements. I prefer, however, US339867 of April 13, 1886, which seems applicable to this movement. The patent drawing even includes a representation of the same movement shown above. I know of another (I think, remotely) possible patent, but one of the two I mention here are, in my estimation, more likely.
 

Carl Bergquist

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I have a couple of Ansonia movements with that "fancy" plate design. T.Cu has it right, the case is the "Virginia" dated 1904 in Tran's book. It could be purchased with several options including a statue. $72.50 in 1904 was at least a few months wages so it is not a common model. I don't think the movement is special, not bad just the run of the mill Ansonia visible escape movement.
 

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