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A thorough and beautifully illustrated description of your lovely watch, thank you.#258209, Grade 924
New addition to my NY private label collection and a town I know well.
1903 Dwight Dutcher, Warwick, New York.
Dwight George Dutcher and Clara M Dutcher (born Tillotson).
Dwight was born in May 1859, in Montague, Sussex, New Jersey, USA.
Clara was born on October 15 1866, in Westbrookville, Sullivan, New York.
Dwight W. Dutcher (1859-1927) - Find A Grave Memorial
There is something about a PL that has a town I know that makes them almost irresistible to me.
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I agree. Here's SN 939 which came to me a year ago last December running sluggishly. I admit to OCD - each addition to my collection gets serviced (not by me I'm just a collector). This got an escape wheel jewel, a balance hole and cap, two intermediate winding wheels, a setting lever spring and a new mainspring.These early 936 (RR) private labels are a great thing to collect.
I love it Leigh. Here is what "Find-A-Grave" has on the dude...Sold Sep 15, 1894 to A.W. Bishop - I haven't found anything about him.
Here is some information H.J. Howe I garnered when posting my 924 Howe in post #382 above.Here is a Hamilton grade 936, model 1, class 2. A PL for H.J.Howe of Syracuse, NY. He's is mentioned in a few other threads but I haven't found much more about him other than he enjoyed a hefty reputation as Tiffany's of upstate New York. I do know the watch was sold to Howe on 6 June 1898.
Hi JimThis is a nice Hamilton "931" Grade of which they produced 4000.
Serial number 35447. The Ledgers shows this and #46 Sold to, O.D. Leidal, Fergus Falls, Minn on 5-2-1899.
The 930& 931 had a nice DMK pattern and blue plate & jewel screws. These were 16J watches.
In a nice Keystone case with a "C" marked below the serial number?
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John, this watch seems too have been sold to Albert Walker of Providence, RI on the 29th of December 1899. At this time in the history of Hamilton, some watches were sold through regional distributors and Providence was pretty big in the wholesale jewelry business so your PL dial probably makes sense. My Springfield PL was sold through Hayden W Wheeler of NY.
John, thanks for the comment.John, this watch seems too have been sold to Albert Walker of Providence, RI on the 29th of December 1899. At this time in the history of Hamilton, some watches were sold through regional distributors and Providence was pretty big in the wholesale jewelry business so your PL dial probably makes sense. My Springfield PL was sold through Hayden W Wheeler of NY.
A little bit more on Hamilton 50594.John, thanks for the comment.
I have noticed quite a few New England private label early 16s Hamiltons. My impression is that Hamilton had very effective marketing in that region.
I am not your experienced collector but this 924 may shed some light. Note that the SN is just 18 numbers lower than yours and our watches were finished and sold within a few days of each other.I just don't know and was hoping a more experienced collector could shed some light on the issue.
The argument over RR Grade or not has become almost absurd. There is no winning......PWDB states the watch is not RR grade and is not adjusted. PWDB is sometimes in error but these are two serious omissions. The watch may have been RR approved early in its career but not now. It is also possible that Veatch marked the watch for the C&EI RR to make it more attractive to local C&EI railroaders. Not ethical but possible. I just don't know and was hoping a more experienced collector could shed some light on the issue.
I guess it all depends on how you define scarce or rare. To me this is not just another 924. It is a private label 924. Private labels are usually scarce. Being scarce in and of itself doesn't mean much. Most scarce private labels aren't in high demand or valuable. Yours however, is no run of the mill PL. While it may be no more scarce than your typical "Joe Blow Jewelry, Bug Fug, Iowa" Pl, it is certainly much more desirable.John, it doesn't make a difference I was asking out of curiosity and I appreciate the responses. It is a beautiful watch but with over 140,000 produced scarce might be a bit of a stretch. Thanks for taking time to comment.