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    #201 Dave Coatsworth, Jul 8, 2017
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    Re: Hamilton Private Labels, Pleasse add to the list

    88224 - 'O. G. Tullis, Santa Monica, Cal.', Grade 926. Looks like it was finished in February of 1899 and shipped to Mr. Tullis on October 2, 1899.

    Photo of Oliver Grant Tullis and one of his shop, plus a short bio: http://www.tullistrees.org/Vol3No2/OliverGrantTullis.htm



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    Re: Hamilton Private Labels, Pleasse add to the list

    Mermod & Jaccard Jewelry Company
    St. Louis

    18-size 929, serial no. 17325, circa 1896,
    in a .925 silver Crescent HC


    Movement:
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    'Standard' St Louis Mo
    ('Standard' was one of M & J's model names.)

    Dial:
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    from a completed auction.



     

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    474413 - 'L. L. Sharpe & Son, St. John, New Brunswick', 924 311743.jpg 311744.jpg
     
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    579109 - 'Washington', 924. Can anyone make out the buyer in the ledger?

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    Lloyd, The admin team is working on the image issue. Hopefully we will have them back soon.
     
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    Yes -- Hirsch -- first and last letter very similar.

    (There must other handwriting entries for comparison?)
     
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    Serial No. 15053, 939,18s, adj. 5P, 17j, LS. Cased in a Fahys 20 yr GF "Montauk" model #221036 (not original to the movement) .

    Finished 7/8/1898 and sold 3/1/1899 to Milwaukee jeweler Adam Bloedel (1842-1921), who appears in the
    collage image. The watch was serviced last August and keeps excellent time, running for 16 days and losing only 7 seconds.

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    #385 - Grade 932 sold to Harrington & Freeman of Boston on October 5, 1894.

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    # 16040 18s 931 sold to jeweler P. Brady, Sharon PA. 29 October, 1895. The jeweler's name is engraved on only the movement so I'm guessing the dial may be a replacement.
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    Private Label for O. Nelson, Peshtigo, Wis. With a seldom seen Hamilton curved underneath.

    Serial number is 707673. It is a grade 972 but would have been RR Approved at the time.

    The Ledgers show that it was sold to Thomas Bros. & Co. on 10-25-1910 and returned and resold to O.Nelson on 11-17-1911.

    The movement is not signed but because of the Ledger records we can verify that this is an original watch.

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    This is a nice 940 signed "Hamilton Special" 21 Jewels.

    Serial number is 647077 Sold to L.H. Schafer & Co., Chicago. on 10-27-1909.

    On the 2 pages this was listed on (100) watches this was in a group of 10 marked G. Tr. Meaning Gilt Trimmer.

    Looks like I have a little work to do on this to get it back to Gilt trimmed.

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    Jim,

    This is very interesting. I bought one of these dials a long time ago and I thought either you or Rhett told me that these all went on watches with a special damaskeening. I think I sold the dial to Glen because he had such a movement. I don't doubt there were more than one kind of movement for which these dials were ordered.
     
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    422008 - Grade 924 for G. G. Brooks of Colusa, California. Finished March 28, 1904 and sold to Brooks on May 2, 1904.

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    #583201 "Belding Bros./ Portland, Oregon" on dial and mv't
     
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    613608 - "Roosevelt", grade 925. As with the "Washington" above, sold to A. Hirsch & Co. of Chicago.

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    675490 - grade 940 for Alfred Anderson of Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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    478615 - grade 926 for T. E. Jones of Payette, Idaho.

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    4241 - 930 for Joseph G. Wells of Bloomsburg, Pa.

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    661202 - 924 for C. R. McLachlan. Per the records, sold to M. S. Brown of Montreal on June 15, 1910.

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    143919 - 925 for Hahn, Durango, Colorado.

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    431204 - A 925 sold to the Christian Optical Company of Temple, Texas on October 13, 1905.

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    46618 - 934 sold to Thomas J. Morrow of Holyoke, Mass on November, 16, 1899.

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    Hi Dave, very interesting. I live in Indiana, Pa. I am familiar with the former store and his relatives. I know the location of the store. When it went out of business in the early 1980’s, I scored some nice watches on the sale.

    I also know some of his relatives. I have a metal dial on a Hamilton 910 with his name from the 1930’s.

    I also have an 18s Illinois dial with N L Wehrle, Punxsutawney, Pa, the home of the famous groundhog

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    I think Paul is correct as this gives us Chicago Ill.

    The quote didn't come thru, see post #207.

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    I recently added another Hamilton 975 private lable to my collection.

    This one is for a W. C. Haubrick, New Ulm, Minnesota. Made 1905.

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    Hi, Is Selbert the old store that still has that big jewelers regulator hanging on the wall? If so, I love that place. Shawn
     
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    Hi Shawn,

    I was curious to see Selbert's (it's not common to see one that old still in business!) so I googled the store and it seems they have just closed last year. Here's a link to the article and a screen shot from google maps of the store taken Sept. 2017. It look's like they were selling out their stock as the signs in the window read "A'' Sales Final".

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    Re: Hamilton Private Labels, Please add to the list.

    Hamilton 941 #161215. A Banner Special with P/L dial marked Sargent Bros., Jewelers & Optometrists. Crooksville O.

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    #234 Greg Frauenhoff, Jan 27, 2018
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    18s, 21j, grade 941 img495.jpg img496.jpg , #89137, Trask & Plain Special. The main Trask & Plain store was in Aurora, Ill., but there was also a branch at one time in Galesburg. I suppose that the factory records might show where this one went. I checked the records, this one went to Aurora, Ill., on 1/4/1900 (difficult to read the date, especially the month).
     
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    Would like to add several

    18s, 21j, grade 942, an 140,923. movement marked Huber Bros, Dillon, Mont. Dial marked The Huber Special.

    18s enamel Roman ss dial marked The Huber

    12s, grade 910, an 1,944,234. Dial—metal, Arabic marked R.W. Wehrle, Indiana Pa.

    16s, grade 975, sn 870,610 marked Chas. E. Carlson, Jeweler, St Paul, Minn

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    An old and not too clear picture. Maybe someone can make out the name.

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    I previously posted this grade 974 (#62205) for J.M.Boner in Evansville, Ind. in a separate thread back in 2004.
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    589219 - Grade 940 for Jaccards of Kansas City.

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    I've always wanted to acquire one of the 18s Hamilton P/L for Jaccards, particularly one with the hour glass engraved on the barrel bridge.
     
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    I found a couple more.

    16s, 992, SN 354,152, lever set. dial--DS Arabic, enamel, marked Kolb Bros Williamsport PA

    18S, SS, Arabic dial. Marked C.D. Brookes Coshocton, O. Dial came from a model 924.

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    J. C. Anderson & Co., Telluride, Colo. Grade 924 two-tone, matching dial.

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    W. W. Denney, Aurora, Ill., two-tone grade 937. Oops. Lost pic of mvt. Will post when it turns up.

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    Dial view.
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    I posted this watch in Sept 2006: 1893 18s 16J Hamilton 932 S/N 191

    Movement: Carl W. Anderson & Co. Manchester, N. H.
    Dial: C. W. A & Co.

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    154917 - 'J. W. Grant, Saginaw Special', marked grade 936.

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    Wm. W. Arms Opt. D. Owatonna, Minn. Hamilton 975 16 size To Finishing Dept: Dec 16, 1905
    I found this Hamilton Hunter movement 16s PL as a orphan movement and I put it in this Keystone Sterling Silver Demi Hunter case (the dial photo is without inside bezel on)

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    By coincidence, another watch labeled "Carl W. Anderson, Manchester, NH" whose shop was less than fifty miles from where I am sitting. This one needed a lot of help, but it will emerge a very nice watch.
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