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Here's a 974 double signed for M.A. Selbert Frankfort, KY


This store is still in business, and in the same location where it has been for the past 100+ years.






Manfield, Ohio

 

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An earlier one....

 

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Higher grade...

 

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Hamilton 975, SN 303,402, sold 8/13/1903 to Seligman Jlry Co. in Chicago. Signed "E.B. Lewis, Dwight, Ill." on dial and movement; gilt trim. B&B case appears original, engraved "F.J. Welter, 1916" on cuvette. E.B.Lewis is probably Everett B. Lewis, b. 1871 or 1872.

 

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My first PL. Hamilton 974, SN 356,709, sold 8/31/1907 to H.A. Osgood & Sons, Lewiston, ME. Signed "M.W.Bassett" on dial, "M.W. Bassett, Hartford, Conn." on movement; gilt trim. Merton W. Bassett, b. 1872, served in the Spanish-American war, then bought out another Hartford jeweler in 1906. He had a growing business, becoming a 'HallMark' jeweler, thus selling Hallmark (Illinois) watches. Retired due to ill health in 1931. Lived in Newington CT after he retired; I bought this watch from a dealer in Newington, CT in 2005. Dealer put it in the display case. Bassett died in 1950. Interestingly, I see no mention of Hamilton in his ads after 1907.

 

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This continues to be my favorite Hamilton PL...

 

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From 1900 Roswell NM...Jewelers name Park and Morrison

 

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I have two Canadian private label, 18-size Hamiltons, marked on dial only. Any sense in my posting pictures?

 

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I would at least like to know the names of the Canadian cities, Doug. Go ahead and post pictures.
Meanwhile, here is a '925' movement from Paris.

 

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Here is a grade 974 (#62205) that I used to own and have posted elsewhere --

 

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I bought these Hamiltons at an NAWCC regional in Portland about 20 years ago. I suspect they had been overlooked because of the obscure P/L names on the dials. The 21-jewel 940 is a P/L for G M Rioch in Kenora, Ontario, Canada. The Dingwall Limited is a 19-jewel 944. I like it best because of the safety barrel with the jewel in the barrel bridge. Somewhat showier I would think. Dingwall was located in a major railroad hub 100 years ago or so- Winnipeg, Manitoba, Camada. To this day I wonder how these were passed up.

 

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Jim,

The 940 is listed only as Montreal- probably Montreal Watch Case Co., and the case is a Crescent Watch Case Co. The 944 is listed as Montreal Watch Case Co., and it is in a Wadsworth case.

Interesting in that the serial number look up ledger also shows a serial number 479017 which is a grade 926! The Ehrhardt blue book lists S # 479017 as a 944! I wonder how THAT might have happened!

 

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I think this watch is a origional combination P.L. that's from my home state. It's a 17 jewel (adj.to temp only) 934 ser #5258 which was finished on 2-10-1896 and sold on 3-23-1896 to a James G.Martin of Wilkes-Barre,Pennsylvania. Martin is listed as a Jeweler in the 1880 and 1890 city directories being located at 118 S.Main St. His home was listed as being located on Lincoln near Northhampton. While I don't collect the non-railroad grade Hamiltons I really liked the"umbrella, hands" on this one.

 

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Moosejaw - busy busy dial

974 Mvt is not PL marked

 

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Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan! Indeed there is such a place! I managed a jewellery store there from '69 to '71. NOT a period in time my wife of 45 years likes to recall. I remember the Chrichton name, but I don't know if the store was still there when we lived there. Moose Jaw was a major railroad hub in the era of your Hamilton.

 

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I bought this private-label watch on eBay in February, 2011 it is a Hamilton Grade 940 Serial No. 566416 The Hamilton Ledgers indicate that it was finished October 11, 1907 sold October 11, 1907 to the Montr

 

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That was an interesting 16 size "BC Creighton Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan" private-label he must of done a lot of business as I have this example of dial with a Grade 992 movement, and another with a double sunk 24-hour dial and this example a Hamilton 18S Grade 936 Serial No. 244483 with pivate-label, double sunk, bold Arabic 24-hour dial marked "BC Creighton, Moose Jaw, Sask." it has one Hamilton 24-hour minute hand, but is missing the hour hand according to the Hamilton Ledgers 244483 Date Finished June 27, 1903, Date Sold July 17, 1903 to the Montr

 

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Lambert Bros, NY

 

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Hello Jim I have noticed the time gap between the dates finished, and the time sold to A.N. Anderson, I have a Hamilton 18 size, Grade 946 Serial No. 549769 Date finished February 11, 1913 Date sold May 27, 1913 With an A.N. Anderson EXTRA Montgomery dial He must've had a pretty lucrative sideline buying out these movements at such a discounted price, and selling them, Minneapolis, and Winnipeg had great railway connections built by James Jerome Hill "The Empire Builder" a Canadian who eventually built the Great Northern Railway, and controlled the Northern Pacific, and the Chicago, Burlington, & Quincy Railroad

 

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Here is my 936 James Tracey Special from Ottawa, Ontario.

 

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Here are some more examples of Hamilton private labels "BC Creighton, Moose Jaw, Sask." first an 18 Size, 21 jewel, Grade 940 with a Single Sunk 24 hour Arabic dial. The other two are Hamilton 16 size, 21 jewel, Grade 992's one with a Single Sunk 24 hour Arabic Montgomery dial, the other a Double Sunk 24 hour Arabic dial both have 24-hour hands.

 

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Good to see you on line, Larry. We've missed you.

 

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It's good http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/buchaneer/HamiltonGrade926DingwallDSRNinblack24-hourinreddial.jpg
to be back Doug, especially now since I finally figured out how to post multiple images, here is another Hamilton 18 size, 17 jewel, Grade 926 private-label movement Serial No.108614 marked DR Dingwall, Winnipeg in this case the movement was delivered to the safe February 19, 1900 and shipped March 27, 1900 To the Montr

 

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I haven't quite got it mastered yet, here is a picture of the Dingwall Hamilton private label dial.

Larry

 

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Since others have posted examples having only a private label dial, here's my No. 992 bearing its Time-King dial. Like other watches whose movement only carries the standard markings, there's no way of knowing if the dial is original to the movement.

I don't think that there is anything that makes the No. 992 movement stand out from other 992s of the era. I bought the watch decades ago 'cause the dial really attracted me - which is what it was probably originally designed to do. This watch marks the beginning of my liking for marginal minute dials.

At one time I might have known whose label it was, but if I recorded it, I've lost track of the record and I no longer remember.

 

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Thanks Jim!

According to that Answer Box reply, the Time-King dial was a private label for S & N Katz, Baltimore, MD.

I've got it properly recorded now where it won't get lost again.

 

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capnfred posted some pictures of his grandfather's grade No. 930, privately labeled "E. P. Sundberg & Co, Fargo ND" in this recent thread.

 

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11820 Victor Engstrom, Wyo.
125217 C. C. Patton, Canon City, Colo.
543839 D. C. Jaccard
161619 B & M Special
7289 M. H. Swift, Turner, Ill.
9122 W. W. Denney, Aurora, Ill.
124819 Marcy & Co. Special
124702 Sam Cohen & Co., Victor, Colo.
136022 Rovelstad
39344 Robert & Loup, Denver, Colo.
18003 W. B. Studley, Rockland, Mass.
75220 J. S. Lewis, Ogden, UT
33707 Fenlon's, Montrose, Colo.

 

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993 sn 715010 Gmelich & Schmidt, Boonville, Mo.

 

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Grade 927 for Henry C. Hoppe in Sheboygan, Wisconsin. [Ordered through Stein & Ellbogen of Chicago].

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Greg, do you have a date on the Sam Cohen & Co My great-grandfather was the watchmaker there

 

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A 927 for J. F. Maxson, Waterloo, Indiana.

 

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Jim,

Thank you for starting this topic!