Hamilton, Adjusted for Railroad Service, 992 ARRS Watches

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  1. Chuck Hein

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    I would like insights on a 992 Hamilton I just acquired. The dial is marked Hamilton, Adjusted for Railroad Service, 21 Jewels. The movement plates are the two tone style and are accented with a gold color regulator, regulator whip, and screws. It has a gold center wheel and gold jewel settings. The movement is marked Hamilton Watch Co., Lancaster Pa., 21 Jewels, Double Roller, Adjusted 5 Positions. The serial number on the movement is 1610913.

    I am curious to know if you think this is actually one of the rare "Adjusted for RR Service" watches. The movement seems to have all the qualities of being the rare piece except, it is not marked "Special". Thanks in advance for your insights. Chuck
     
  2. Kent

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    Chuck:

    Many of these (the ones bearing serial numbers below 2,000,000) were not marked "Special." See: "Railroaders' Corner - Hamilton's 992 Part 2: The Extras and the Specials," NAWCC Bulletin No. 333, August 2001, pp. 513-520.

    Oh, here are the neighboring serial numbers of other 992s that Ed and I have in our data base. All except for 1,610,942 have the same dial marking as your watch. However, the movement seems to be the same. Perhaps its original dial was damaged beyond repair. We have no "plain" 992s in our data base whose serial number lies within this group.

    1,610,913
    1,610,922
    1,610,942
    1,610,946
    1,610,948
    1,610,951

    Is your dial a double-sunk, Arabic dial, or is it a double-sunk Montgomery dial?

    Is there a hand-scratched number, located near, or just below, the movement serial number? Look carefully with a high-powered loop. Some long-time owners of these watches, who are very experienced collectors, didn't know the number was there until we asked them to llok closely. What is the number?

    What kind of case is your movement in? Does it appear to be original?

    Thanks in advance for the additional information,
     
  3. Chuck Hein

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    Hi Kent,
    The dial is double sunk with bold Arabic numbers that are surrounded by red color 5 minute (Arabic style) numbers.

    There are some scratched in numbers located just below the movement's serial number. It looks like there are two rows of numbers with the first row crossed out. That first row looks like 1610 and has a cross out line through it. Slightly below that there is another hand scratched set of numbers. It looks like the numbers are 22227.

    The case is a RR style NAWCO "Challenge". It is white gold filled and does appear original to the movement (no additional case screw marks).

    Regards,
    Chuck
     
  4. Fred Hansen

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    Kent -

    Have you found any "plain" 992 movements mixed in with any of the serial number clusters for these 2-tone RR Service watches?

    Or do the 2-tone RR Service all seem to have been given small lots of serial numbers with no regular plain 992 movements mixed in?

    Thanks!

    Fred
     
  5. Kent

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    Fred:

    One might suggest that perhaps there were solid blocks of these watches, but the data is still a bit sketchy.

    Here are the other clusters we have of Tu-Tone 992s with "Adj for RR Service" dials (not marked 992 unless noted):

    741,381 - "Special 992"
    741,390 - "Special 992"
    741,393 - Dial Not Noted
    741,424 - Tu-Tone Not Noted, Mvt & Dial "Hamilton Special"
    741,468 - Montgomery Dial "Adj for RR Service" No Grade No.
    741,485 - Montgomery Dial "Adj for RR Service" No Grade No.

    1,088,004 - Montgomery Dial "Adj for RR Service"
    1,088,041 - Montgomery Dial "Adj for RR Service"
    1,088,084 - Montgomery Dial "Adj for RR Service"

    1,114,531
    1,114,547
    1,114,575 "Ordinary" 992

    1,136,513
    1,136,521
    1,136,629 "Ordinary" 992

    1,323,765 "Ordinary" 992
    1,323,826
    1,323,842

    1,531,009
    1,531,037
    1,531,069
    1,531,076
    1,531,359 "Ordinary" 992
    1,531,780 "Ordinary" 992
    1,531,865 "Ordinary" 992


    1,554,903
    1,554,942
    1,554,948
    1,554,960
    1,554,971
    1,554,985
    1,554,997

    Below are marked "992 Special" with dials marked "Adjusted For Railroad Service 21 Jewels 8 Adjustments" except as noted:

    2,428,202 "Ordinary" 992
    2,428,443 "Ordinary" 992
    2,428,704
    2,428,708
    2,428,713 - Dial "Time King"
    2,428,729
    2,428,772

    2,463,040 - No infomation about markings or dial
    2,463,613
    2,463,620 - "992 Special" not noted
    2,463,630 - "992 Special" not noted
    2,463,650
    2,463,661 - "992 Special" not noted
    2,463,668 - "992 Special" not noted

    2,532,535
    2,532,555 - "8 Adjustments" not noted
    2,532,558
    2,532,586
    2,532,595

    2,559,255
    2,559,275 - "992 Special" not noted
    2,559,286
    2,559,297
    2,559,866 "Ordinary" 992
     
  6. Fred Hansen

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    Thanks Kent!

    I will see if I have any other numbers recorded to contribute here to your list ... but unfortunately they would only be the RR Service and not the (equally important to understanding production) "ordinary" 992 movements.

    Fred
     
  7. Fred Hansen

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    Here are some I had down in my notes Kent ...

    773270 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, Hamilton dial

    786076 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, Montgomery RR Service dial

    1062305 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, Hamilton dial

    1114524 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1136539 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1247433 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1247436 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1323843 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1531007 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1531059 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1531060 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1554949 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1554994 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1716842 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1716903 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    1716906 - 2-tone checkerboard movement with large stamped/engraved “992 SPECIAL” “8 ADJUSTMENTS” marking, RR Service dial, listed Antiquorum auction

    1716914 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2332031 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2332049 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2332082 - 2-tone checkerboard movement with large stamped/engraved “992 SPECIAL” “8 ADJUSTMENTS” marking, RR Service dial, listed Jones-Horan 11/06 auction

    2428760 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2428761 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2463680 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2532556 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, Hamilton dial

    2532568 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2532589 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2559229 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2559263 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2559273 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    2559294 - 2-tone checkerboard movement, RR Service dial

    On the late ones I had not consistently recorded the presence of "992 Special" movement markings or the "8 Adjustments" on the RR Service dial, but would expect that all above after the 2.4 million serial number mark would likely share these features.

    Also interesting here is the "additional" movement markings on serials 1716906 and 2332082. The higher number movement can be viewed in the online Jones-Horan catalog from the recent sale, the other movement is pictured in the catalog of the American pocketwatch auction at Antiquorum a few years back. There are some differences in these "additional" movement markings between the examples but also a lot of similarities.

    For some of the above watches I only have the serial number recorded from the sightings but others I have noted when and where they were seen and any other information that stood out, so if there are any particular ones from the list above you might want more info on I'd be glad to send this by email.

    Fred
     
  8. Chuck Hein

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    Kent and Fred,

    Thank you for all your information. At this point it looks to me that the watch I have is another example to add to the data base as a Checker Board 992 movement with the Adjusted for Railroad Service dial. It isn't nested in a cluster of other serial numbers you have listed, but it isn't too far off.

    Are the other watches in your data record (the ones without the "Special") actually Unmarked Specials or are they the same as mine, meaning that we really cannot be sure?

    Kent,

    You asked me if there were any scratched in numbers located below the movement's serial number. I have never heard of that and was wondering what that is all about. Also, did the numbers on my watch give you any insights?

    Regards,
    Chuck
     
  9. Kent

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    Fred:

    Thanks for all those serial numbers! In reviewing your list, I realize that there was a small cluster I missed. Ed and I had used different nomenclature in describing the three watches in it, so it didn't show up in the first search. You have notes on two of the watches in the cluster: 1247433 & 1247436

    1247405 is a Tu-tone, LS, A5P, DR, movement with gilt trim, Dial "Adjusted For Railroad Service - 21 Jewels"

    Also, I had (foolishly) only reported clusters. There are a few individual examples:

    704398 - Tu-Tone, A5P, Mvt "Special" Dial "Hamilton Adj. For R.R. Service"

    773280 or 778280 (or both, but not likely) - Tu-Tone Mvt, LS, A5P, Gold Scrs, Dial: "Hamilton Adjusted For Railroad Service 21 Jewels"

    870603 - A5P, DR "Special 992 - Engineer" Dial "Adjusted For Special RR Service"

    1062350 - Tu-Tone, A5P, DR, Hd Scratched No. 8555, Dial "Hamilton Adjusted For Railroad Service"

    1371669 - Tu-Tone, LS, A5P, DR, Gilt Trim, Not Marked "992", Hand Scr'd No. <span class="ev_code_RED">18438</span>, Dial Adjusted For RR Service, 21 Jewels"

    1372612 - Tu-Tone, LS, Not Marked "992", Gold Trim, Hand Scr'd No. 17486, Dial "Adjusted For RR Service, 21 Jewels"

    1507445 - LS, DR, GCW, Dial "Adj For RR Service, 21 J, 8 Adjs" <span class="ev_code_blue">Probably a dial switch.</span>

    1657047 - Dial "Adj for RR Service, 21j"

    2330274 - (Not Tu-Tone - Can tell) LS, A5P, DR, Mvt "992 - Made In U.S.A.", Dial "Adj For RR Service , 21Jewels, 8 Adjustments"

    2487315 - Tu-Tone Mvt, Dial: "Hamilton Adjusted For Railroad Service 21 Jewels 8 Adjustments"


    Chuck:

    "At this point it looks to me that the watch I have is another example to add to the data base as a Checker Board 992 movement with the Adjusted for Railroad Service dial. It isn't nested in a cluster ..."
    But it is nested in a cluster - we reported the group above:
    1,610,913
    1,610,922
    1,610,942
    1,610,946
    1,610,948
    1,610,951

    The hand scratched numbers were first called to our attention by Lyle Waisman when Ed and I were doing the research for the Railroaders' Corner column mentioned above. They seem to be in ascending order with respect to the movement serial numbers, but there are exceptions - perhaps incorrectly read numbers. We don't know the significance. It is highly unlikely that Hamilton put the numbers on the movements, but perhaps the firm that ordered the watches did it - they're certainly special order watches.

    Edited to correc the hand scratched number of 1,371,669.
    fixme7111936
     
  10. Fred Hansen

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    Kent -

    Had you seen any other examples with the large movement stamping/engraving like the watch recently sold at the Jones-Horan?

    Here is a link to the photo of this watch from their recent sale ...

    http://www.jones-horan.com/0604/images/mwa212a_c.jpg

    The only other I had seen with this type of mark was #1716906 ... which had similar but not quite identical markings on its movement.

    Fred
     
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    fred,
    what did it look like IN PERSON?
     
  12. Kent

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    Fred:

    This is the first that I've seen that marking. It's bizarre! I wouldn't spend my money on an example.
     
  13. Fred Hansen

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    I think Kent's bizarre is fair ... it isn't in the style of any factory markings I've seen but the work isn't bad either ... just a strange font.

    What is interesting to me though is that there are at least the two movements marked this way ... one is easy to dismiss as a one time alteration but if there is more than one it seems like it deserves more of an explanation.

    Fred
     
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    Kent & Fred,

    I found one that you can add to your list.

    1,371,669 checkerboard 992 movement, hand scratched #18438. ADJUSTED for RR Service Dial.
     
  15. Kent

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    Thanks Jim:

    But I've got 1,371,669 listed as having hand-scratched number 17486., see my post above. We don't usually reveal our source, but in this case, you told us about it in June 2005.

    Hummmmm.......

    Oh I see, when I entered the data, I must have copied and pasted from 1,372,612 which also is shown as having that hand-scratched number. I'll correct our data base and the above post.

    Thanks,

    Kent
     
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    Re: Hamilton, Adjusted for Railroad Service

    Here are some photos of serial #1114524.

    It has a double-sunk Montgomery "Hamilton, Adjusted for Railroad Service, 21 Jewels" dial. The movement has a handscratched number of 10590 underneath the Hamilton factory serial number.
     

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    Now here are some photos of an earlier example at serial #773258.

    The dial is very similar in appearance to what is on #1114524 with the main difference being that it is slightly less bold and has radial (rather than upright) numerals in the seconds-bit. But #773258 has a 4 dial feet on the rear while #1114524 has 3 feet.

    The movement also has a few more differences. Like the other it is a 2-tone checkerboard damaskeen, but the individual gold blocks are much larger in size with less space between each gold colored block. The movement is not marked "Double Roller". And another notable difference, this movement does not have any type of handscratched serial number.

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    For yet another variant on the RR Service marked 992, here are photos (courtesy and with permission from Jones-Horan auction) of serial 741484 ...

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    ... and this watch has quite a few differences from the later versions including different damaskeen, different marking text and style on dial, and markings of "For Special RR Service" on the movement. I also believe this watch and the others I've seen of this early style do not have any handscratched number on the movement.

    Fred
     
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    Hi Gents, just getting around to this one. For records, I own a 992 tu-tone marked "special" on the movement. Dial is marked adjusted for railroad service, 21 jewels, 8 adjustments. movement sn# is 2559214 and the hand scratched sn below the factory sn# is 37055. The dial is mint, no cracks or chips, movement is mint also, just a tad of tarnish on the reg whip. Its housed in a hamilton railroad white gold filled model 7 case. keeps time +/- 2 secs per day no matter what.

    regards Joe
     
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    Hey, Joe . . . what are our chances of seeing some photos, please? ;) . . . it sounds really nice - Thanks!
     
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    Joe:

    Thanks for sharing the information. It's been added to the data base. I, too, would like to see pictures of the dial and movement!
     
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    Kent,
    773253, older larger checkerboard DMK, no scratched number, Adjusted for RR Service 21 Jewels, Mont dial with 6.
    Pic's are in J&H sale in Oct.2010.
     
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    ok guys, will post pics in a minute, I knew the request would come but I ran outa time last night....
     
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    ok guys, pics attached ..enjoy
     

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    All, wish my camera would take closer pics without blurring up. The movement is marked 992 Special Hamilton Watch Co Lancaster PA 21 Jewels on the train bridge, double roller and SN# on the barrel bridge and adjusted 5 positions on the balance cock.
     
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    Thanks Joe!
     
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    Kent,

    I would like to add my 992 Special to the data base. Serial # 2,532,548 with hand scratched # 32764. Thanks! Please see pics.
     

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    congratulations...
    thank you for posting...

    on the inside of this model 6 case.. is it marked 14k gold filled?

    does the case have a 'green' color to it rather than a yellow color?
    (if you own a hamilton factory case marked 10k gold filled, set them next to each other and compare the colors....
     
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    Please add my thanks to Terry's, its a nice watch!
     
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    Terry & Kent,

    My 992 Special is housed in a yellow gold filled Model 6 (10 K gold filled). I also have a 992 housed in a green gold filled Model 6 (14 K gold filled).

    Thanks for your responses, very much appreciated!

    Jeff
     
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    Hi Kent,
    I'd like to add my 992 Special to your list as well, and pictures are attached. The sn is 2332049 with the hand-scratched number 27324 below. It came to me in a Hamilton no. 10 case (pictured) which I've retained, but it is currently in a YGF no.2 display case.
     

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    Jeff.
    Thank you for the info... in some other images it appeared this one was in a 14k marked case... appreciate the clarification...

    one 'difficult' question...

    'in hand'... how is the tu-tone color on the plates?
    The gilding on the screws and other steel work looks fine.. but how did the plates look?

    Ralph..
    Thanks for posting your example!!
     
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    Well, Well........reading back through this thread I noticed that my watch was already included in Fred Hansen's list. Small world.......and there's no telling when I may have shared some info about the watch, or perhaps even the purchase transaction. Apparently I wasn't aware of the hand-scratched number at the time since it wasn't mentioned.

    At the risk of going off topic I'm also pleased to have the big brother, a 940 marked with "Adjusted for RR Service" on both dial and movement. It is sn 988522; it has the hand-scratched #9360 located at the right end and perpendicular to the serial no. This watch is not marked either '940' or '940 Special'.
     
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    Ralph:

    Even though Fred had listed it, it was nice to see the pictures!

    Thanks,
     
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    Terry,

    The plates look much better in hand than in the pictures, with only the slightest of fading.

    Thanks

    Jeff
     
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    I also have a 992 special serial #2332061 with scratched # 27931. Where can i find the value of it . I'm in southern California. Thanks
     
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    Hi Jeff,

    Welcome to the NAWCC Message Board and thanks for reporting the info on the watch.:D:D

    I don't know how you missed all the signs about values,but we can't give out opinions on that.

    If you want to know you can get the information on closed auctions and the book on watch prices, Called. "Complete Price Guide to Watches, c. Tinderbox Press, www.tinderboxpress.com

    You have one of the nicest collectable watches that there is. How is the condition, color of the checkerboard pattern on the movement and the dial?
     
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    Jim:

    Sometimes I think that you're just shoveling manure against the tide.
     
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    Jim thanks for quick reply here are some pic of the watch .it needs a second hand and a crystal but seems to work fine. If there is any other kind of info on it pleas let me know . Thanks , Jeff
     

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    Jeff,
    Look at Post #2 and get the 2 part article that Kent & Ed did on these watches. If you are a NAWCC member you can see it on line through the Library on our main site or if not, you can buy it from the Library for a small fee.

    These are very interesting watches and are know as Private Labels. They were bought on J. Forsingers account but a Chicage Jeweler, G. Tucker is the one who used Foesingers account to purchase them. I don't think that info is in the article.

    There were 4 styles of dials and movement over the years. Fred Hansen pointed out that the earliers models had the larger checkerboard pattern than the later ones.

    Your dial needs a little fill in and make sure there is a post where the second hand goes, other than that, it's a great watch.
     
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    Kent and all,

    I just found another one today. The movement serial number is 1,610,986. Under the SN is hand scratched 21995. The movement is two tone and not marked special. The dial is bold Arabic with red 5 minute markers and says "Hamilton" in script with "Adjusted for Railroad Service 21 jewels".
     
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    Kent,
    I have a new number for your and Ed's data base.

    It's in a like new Cross Bar Model case (called a Model 1 by some).

    Serial No. 1521023. Hand scratched 19164
     

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    John & Jim:

    Thanks for the information and pictures!

    P.S. Jim: You meant to type that the serial number was 1531023, right?
     
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    Yes, I did, but what I mean to do, is sometimes the oppsite of what I do.
     
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    Jim H,

    Please check your messages - Thanks!
     
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    Kent,
    I have a 992L Special tu-tone movement Serial no. 2463653 (scratched number 30507) with the dial Script word Hamilton Adjusted for Railroad Service 21 jewels 8 adjustments. Hamiton BOC Model 2 Case I thought I had already given you these before but didn't see it on the list.
    Thanks,
    Weldon Hopkins
     
  47. Kent

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    Thanks Weldon:

    I appreciate your ensuring that serial number 2463653 was accounted for!

    That list above was put on the message board in 2006. We added serial number 2463653 (hand scratched number 30507) to our data base in 2008.

    Thanks again,
     
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    my Hamilton 'adjusted for railroad service 21J, 8 adjustments' on the dial s/n is 2,559,248 with underneath scratched nbr 37029. Also on the movement: 992 Special, adjusted 5 positions.

    casing is 'Hamilton railroad model 10K gold filled'
     
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    Hi Kith:

    Welcome to the NAWCC American Pocket Watch Message Board!

    Thanks for telling us about your 992 Special!
     
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    A new watch to add to this great thread.

    786085 with a hand scratched number of 3200.

    This is a 4 digit number and I believe the reason for this is that this watch was sold to A.C. Becker Co.on 5-3-1911. The Ledgers indicate that about 50 watches were sold to him. I don't know if they were bought for G. Tucker, like the watches that were sold to Forsinger did or not?

    The larger checkerboard pattern with sharp 2-toning color and a nice case, white G.F. Model 2 # 0363761.

    I tried to get a shot of the scratch number but it is not clear.
     

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