Great Grandfather's Collection - Waltham Pocket Watches

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  1. Kalen

    Kalen Registered User

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    I have recently investigated my Great Grandfather's collection of pocket watches. At the request of a few members, I am posting pictures of the watches in a few groups based on manufacturer. Any info you can provide will help deepen my appreciation of these timepieces. Thanks.

    Kalen

    Waltham #1:
    Approx. 1 5/8" diameter
    Gold tone with blue hands
    Plain front of case
    Crescent and Star with small diamonds on back of case
    Inside it reads "Guaranteed Essex 14k Superior 25 years"
    Inside of mechanism reads "American Waltham Watch Co" "Safety Barrel"

    Waltham #2:
    Approx. 2" diameter
    Brass tone with blue hands
    Back of case has etching of a locamotive
    Inside of back cover reads "Emperor Base metal"
    Inside of mechanism reads "AWWCo Waltham Mass"

    Waltham #3:
    Approx. 2" in diameter
    Gold tone with blue hands
    Face has a complication that reads "DN UP" with a range of 0 to 24
    Inside of back cover reads "Watch Star Case Company Stellar"
    Inside of mechanism reads "Vanguard Waltham Mass" "23 Jewels" "5 Positions" "Adjusted"
     

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  2. Kent

    Kent Registered User
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    Hi Kalen:

    Welcome to the NAWCC American Pocket Watch Message Board!

    The following comes from information in the references listed in the Waltham Watches Encyclopedia article and elsewhere as noted (and from just looking at the watches):

    Waltham #1, Movement serial number 9153363
    6-size, model 1890, 11-jewel, hunting movement, built in about 1900. It is from a run indicated in the Waltham records as being a "Special" run. These runs are composed of one or more grades of watches whose production was performed outside of the normally scheduled runs of those grades, or for movements that are part of a private label watch contract. This ladies' watch is similar, but not identical, to the "V" grade movement seen at the bottom of page 77 of the 1903 Oy Company Catalog.

    The nice gold-filled case was made by the Essex Watch Case Co.


    Waltham #2
    This will have to wait until you can tell us the movement serial number. Any of the ones that I gessed at from your picture didn't come up with a likely watch. Also, I'm not clear with who made the watch case.


    Waltham #3, Movement serial number 19064476
    16-size, model 1908, 23-jewel, open-face movement, fit with a wind indicator, built in about 1915, give or take a year or so. This was a popular railroad watch, one that was widely accepted for railroad time service. Almost 50,000 wind indicator Vanguard movements were built. You can see a catalog description, along with where it fit in Waltham's line of 16-size watches, on pages W3 and W4 of the 1917 Oskamp-Nolting Catalog. Its case was made by the Star Watch Case Co.

    Unless you know that they has been cleaned and oiled within the last few years, you should have the watches serviced before running them very much. It may be helpful for you to read the Encyclopedia article on Watch Service and its related links, especially the one to the message board thread on the subject. The Encyclopedia article on Choosing a Pocket Watch Repair Person may be useful as well.

    Please feel free to ask about anything that isn't clear to you.

    Good luck,
     
  3. Kalen

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    Kent,

    Thanks for your investigative and helpful info. The serial # on the Waltham #2 watch is 12895623.

    Thanks,
    Kalen
     
  4. Kent

    Kent Registered User
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    That helps!

    Waltham #2, movement serial number 12895623
    16-size, model 1899, 7-jewel, open-face movement, built in about 1905 (give or take a year or so). This is a modest, although popular, watch. Over 225,000 were built between about 1899 and 1919. You can see a catalog description, along with a picture (which has the large and small winding wheel positions reversed because a hunting movement is shown) and where it fit in Waltham's line of 16-size watches, on pages 77 and 76 of the 1903 Oy Company Catalog. The case is a replacement of a style of about twenty years or more newer than the movement.


    Regarding Waltham #3, its case, too, is a replacement, being of a design of about ten years newer than the movement. Also, its dial is a little bit unusual in that it is a sliver finished dial. There was a slight upcharge for these.
     

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