Help Grandfather Clock Junghans A 08 with Tube Chimes

[Cuckoojohnboy]

Hi - I am considering whether or not to purchase a Junghans A 08 Grandfather Clock. The case is in need of a lot of work - someone used gorilla glue (the foaming kind) to repair the case and it all needs to be carefully cleaned off. Otherwise, all seems intact without too many dings or scratches. The Clock Movement is in pieces with a few pieces missing and others I'm uncertain what is there. It is missing a hand for the chime silencer, a chime hammer head, a key for the door, a few of the tube for the chimes have the silver color plating off of them, and perhaps a lot of other things.

Does anyone own one of these that could possibly help me with pictures? Has anyone had experience in repairing these? It seems to me like it has 4 barrel springs - 3 seems to be okay and the other one has the crank off so I could not tell if it was okay.

Can the tubes be repaired? They seem to be brass interior then plated or painted with a silver color.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am including some pics.

Thanks,
JOHN

 

[R&A]

Not understanding 4 barrel springs

 

[TEACLOCKS]

4 Barrel springs ??

"3 seems to be okay and the other one has the crank of so I could not tell if it was okay."

Crank & 3 are OK -- What ??

 

[D.th.munroe]

These are odd ones there is 4 barrels on these, 3 in the main movement and a almost separate movement sitting sideways on the right of the main movement. I could only find this picture of one
JUNGHANS TUBULAR BELLGRANDFATHER CLOCK MOVEMENT & DIAL 1906 | #1787937081
Dan

 

[shutterbug]

It will be an interesting project. If you can pick it up cheap, I'd say go for it. But I wouldn't expect to find much in the way of parts for it. You may have to construct the missing parts yourself.

 

[Cuckoojohnboy]

Not understanding 4 barrel springs

It has three barrel springs in the movement and another one on the right side of the movement that appears to operate the hammers for the chimes. I've never actually seen one before and I do not know exactly how it works myself. If anyone has information, I'm grateful. Thanks much!

 

[J. A. Olson]

The 4th spring barrel acts as a "booster" for the chime train which simply wasn't strong enough to haul the big tubular bell chime hammers on its own. The Junghans tubular bell chime clocks were always among the lower-cost fare for their time and from an engineering perspective were somewhat haphazard. The tubes should be nickel-plated bellmetal as was the norm for clock tubes of that time. Whether they were made by Junghans or a regional bell foundry such as R. H. Mayland is entirely up to debate.

There was also a version with chime rods which uses just three spring barrels. Rod hammers did not require so much motive power compared to large tubular bell hammers.

It is an interesting clock nonetheless and one worth trying to restore.

 

[DanJeffries]

The 4th spring barrel acts as a "booster" for the chime train which simply wasn't strong enough to haul the big tubular bell chime hammers on its own. The Junghans tubular bell chime clocks were always among the lower-cost fare for their time and from an engineering perspective were somewhat haphazard. The tubes should be nickel-plated bellmetal as was the norm for clock tubes of that time. Whether they were made by Junghans or a regional bell foundry such as R. H. Mayland is entirely up to debate.

There was also a version with chime rods which uses just three spring barrels. Rod hammers did not require so much motive power compared to large tubular bell hammers.

It is an interesting clock nonetheless and one worth trying to restore.

I just posted an inquiry about this same type clock, and Shutterbug, pointed me to this one. I worked on one of these over a decade ago, so I was trying to confirm my memory, in that these were Junghans. And I do remember getting the chime to consistently chime was quite the chore, and it always sounded like it was struggling to get through the sequences.
Anyhow, glad this very same questions came up so soon to mine!

Dan

 

[Isaac]

Looks like a standard "tall" Junghans westminster movement with the additional booster train. I'd imagine such a design would eat up stop/warning pins and also accelerate wear given that there is all that extra power.

 

[DanJeffries]

Hi - I am considering whether or not to purchase a Junghans A 08 Grandfather Clock. The case is in need of a lot of work - someone used gorilla glue (the foaming kind) to repair the case and it all needs to be carefully cleaned off. Otherwise, all seems intact without too many dings or scratches. The Clock Movement is in pieces with a few pieces missing and others I'm uncertain what is there. It is missing a hand for the chime silencer, a chime hammer head, a key for the door, a few of the tube for the chimes have the silver color plating off of them, and perhaps a lot of other things.

Does anyone own one of these that could possibly help me with pictures? Has anyone had experience in repairing these? It seems to me like it has 4 barrel springs - 3 seems to be okay and the other one has the crank off so I could not tell if it was okay.

Can the tubes be repaired? They seem to be brass interior then plated or painted with a silver color.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am including some pics.

Thanks,
JOHN

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Did you purchase the clock? I just picked up the one I was inquiring about. My client is interested if I can get it working. I was able to purchase it cheap enough, it will be a fun project even if I keep it. The big drawing factor to me on this one is....Its HUGE! I told my wife she could bury me in it and I"m 6'5"! its stands a touch over 8 ft tall and its extra wide. Kind of feel bad after working the seller down so much. He said it didn't keep good time with the new pendulum and it wouldn't chime/strike for over a day. Well after just a few simple adjustments and a quick oiling......this morning it was only a minute fast! and it struck qtr after when I checked in on it in the shopAnyhow, would like to acquire or make the proper pendulum for this clock. Should be a simple pendulum stick, but large bob I believe. Anyone have pics, or did you buy this one?