Gold case marks

Michael Post

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I have an Elgin watch in what appears to be a gold case which is marked "AU HAVRE". I am assuming the AU means gold but the havre part leaves me cold. anyone have a clue?
 

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I cannot recall seeing gold identified by its chemical symbol (Au) on a watch case. Can you post a picture of the mark?
 

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Photographs would be best :)

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Jerry Treiman

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I suspect that this (green arrow) may be a continental gold mark, but it does not look like any that I am familiar with. Can you post a sharper and larger image of this mark?

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Coincidentally, there's another watch being discussed in another topic/thread. It too has a case that has the appearance of solid gold, i.e., no wear-throughs, inner case engraving more common in solid cases, a thin case band, etc. While I don't see your case as having "heavy" engraving (It's somewhat subjective and relative.), it does have what is called Jurgensen lips. In honesty, I don't recall ever seeing them on a gold-filled case, but I haven't seen all cases.

I'll join Steven Thornberry in asking for an image of the movement. Personally, I doubt that the case is original to the watch, but there is some chance that it was a new replacement case, although I doubt that too. It would be nice to see that movement image to check for clues of the case having housed another movement in its life.

FWIW, I really like the dial on your watch. And the 162 is a very nice grade to own. I think it's the cats PJ's for 16s Elgins. Congrat's.
 
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