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As Graham noted above, there was indeed a late market for pair cased pocket watches in parts of Scotland, into the early 1900s.
Since buying one myself a couple of years ago, I've kept noticing them coming up for sale, both on eBay and at auction rooms, and have kept a few notes. I've recorded 14, but have seen 3 or 4 others before I started keeping notes, and a few since that were from areas other than Aberdeenshire - I should have noted these also but was focused on the Aberdeenshire connection.
Although not a going barrel (i.e., still has a fusee) this is another late pair-cased watch from Scotland. Methlick is also in Aberdeenshire. The silver pair case bears Birmingham hallmarks for 1894 with a sponsor’s mark "WHA".Maybe it's all nothing but I think there's story behind these watches - just have to find it !
Please do. I have higher resolution versions of the images if you need them. (PM if you would like me to send them to you). Also, I have cleaned up the hallmark a little better to verify (for myself) that the date letter is clearly "u" rather than "n".Do you mind if I pinch your pictures for my records ?
It would seem that a salesman or agent may have worked this region selling solid and simple watches of a familiar form to local and established residents or tradesmen and must have offered to have the buyer's name placed on the movement. Does this make sense?... those that bear names that I have been able to research would appear to not to be carrying the names of makers or jewellers, but do appear to be names of families that have a multigenerational association with the named town or village, and a variety of trades.
Andy - I am not sure if you have posted the photographs of this watch before.I've included some pictures of mine, below. The name on the movement is Duquid, of Ellon. Relatively plain fusee movement, very clean and bright, with dust cap. Of note is the balance cock - it has been shaved down with just a few of the deeper lines of the original engraving still visible. The case is hallmarked London 1915, casemaker S.Y for Samuel Yeomans, as is the back of the dial. The dial is of lovey quality - that's what attracted me to the watch in the first place. The case has a serial number, the movement doesn't. The watch measures 52mm diameter and weighs 156 grams. Not much expense spared on the silver case and dial for an unremarkable movement. Strange.
I agree, the conclusion is rather tenuous if that was indeed the basis for it, but there was an increasing volume of Swiss made parts entering the UK and being incorporated in English watches, both with and without their origins being acknowledged.It seems to be a conclusion drawn on the basis that if it was made in England it would be signed.
Hi AndyHi John,
Thanks for all your input on this. I fear I may have hijacked Piers thread away from his initial objective, but I think it may all be related.
Your question about the dial markings - I haven't removed the dial since the day after I bought the watch some time ago so my memory is hazy. My notes say case and dial by S.Y hallmarked for 1915 so I think the dial is fully hallmarked but will check over the next few days.
You're right about the name being being Duguid rather than Duquid, although both surnames appear in the parish records for the period in question - I think alternative spellings for the same name perhaps. Duguid families are still running businesses in Ellon today.
The case style still intrigues me. When I find examples of these, it is the case that catches my attention and leads me to look more closely at what it may contain, and that has almost always been an Aberdeenshire location on the movement. Whether this is because that was all that was available, or whether there's a more interesting story behind it, I think is still to be discovered.