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  1. jcoyote

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    I was given a German box clock and would like to first identify it. attached are the pictures of what appears to be the makers stamp. It appears only on the box but in several places. The movement is unmarked except for a few numbers. 20150515_144727[1].jpg 20150515_144743[1].jpg any guess as to who the maker is?
     
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    Re: German Box Clock that I need help identifying, dating , and if possible insurance

    I, at least, can tell nothing from the stamps you posted. They may have more to do with the retailer than the maker. Could you please post pictures of the movement (front & back) and the case itself?
     
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    Re: German Box Clock that I need help identifying, dating , and if possible insurance

    That's the retailer... "Kurt Zwiebel Uhrenshop (clock shop) Frankfurt."

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    Kurt Zwiebel
    Uhrmacher
    Frankfurt (Oder)
    Leipzigerstrasse 111

    As has already been said, this is the retailer, (in Frankfurt on the Oder, not Frankfurt on the Main).

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    here are pics requested. 20150618_155817.jpg 20150618_155837.jpg 20150618_155800.jpg 20150618_160050.jpg 20150618_160023.jpg 20150618_160901[1].jpg
     
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    and more pics 20150618_160638[1].jpg 20150618_160229[1].jpg 20150618_160120[1].jpg 20150618_155901[1].jpg numbers on the plates are 45/100 and 50160. no other markings were found. hands are taper pinned to the movement.
     
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    one other picture of the inside of the case. 20150618_155744[1].jpg

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    any idea as to when this clock shop was operating... what years?
     
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    What is the wording on the gong block?

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    "Divina Gong" was one of Friedrich Mauthe's trademarks. The exact Divina gong's shape varied over the years - I've not seen this particular shape before. The clock was probably made around 1920.
     
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    Well done Justin - I thought it might be Divina Gong but couldn't make out the first word for sure; your eyes are sharper than mine!

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    I don't think it's particularly rare, and insuring it might be more expensive than is practical. We're not allowed to discuss values in this section of the board, but there is another area where you can get valuations based on opinion of board members. There is a slight fee for non members.
     
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    Ah, I understand about the value and appraisal. Thanks. What about the maker? Any Guesses? And of course the retailer, store, etc... any history on Kurt Zwiebel Uhrenshop?
     
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    Is Friedrich Mauthe a clock maker? Would this be one of his?
     
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    Re: German Box Clock that I need help identifying, dating , and if possible insurance

    Yes, Friedrich Mauthe was one of the leading German clock manufacturers, working from 1844 until they closed in 1975.

    The company manufactured thousands and thousands of clocks and yours is one of them. As has already been said, it was probably made around 1920. It is of no particular monetary value (sentimental value only you can judge!) and would, in my opinion, not be worth insuring as a separate item.

    As for Zwiebel's clock shop, he was just a retailer, there is unlikely to be any particular record of this firm.

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    Thanks to Harold Bain for giving me some excellent price possibilities on the 'what's my clock worth' thread. Thanks also to JTD and others here who where most helpful in getting all the other data together in identifying and placing this clock back into history. You've all been great!
    Joe
     

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