French? mantel clock with rocking gear face.

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  1. I have this mantel clock and I don't find any maker's information on the movement. Both the movement and the pendulum are stamped 14075 and there are a 4 and a 5 stamped on the bottom of the movement. I am thinking a Marti or Freres perhaps. Any advice or hunches sure would be appreciated. I have a large collection from a collector's estate I am trying to get through and this one has me stumped. View attachment 344171
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  2. leeinv66

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    Hi wlfgrp, this is a fairly typical open escapement (rocking gear face) French movement in a nice slate case. These movements were made by the thousands and without a factory mark, it is all but impossible to attribute them to a particular maker. Hopefully, the experts will be along shortly with more information.
     
  3. George Nelson

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    Hi, Wlfgrp!

    Welcome to the message boards. You'll find lots of help here, and you are certainly among friends who love to help each other out!

    You're clock is not my area of expertise, but I can tell you that it has what is called a "visible escapement". This includes the small rotating gear which is called an 'escape wheel' and the rocking piece you refer to, which is actually called a 'verge'. The clock appears to be a very good quality example and worthy of conservation and collection.

    It has what I believe to be a slate and marble case (others may know better), and is likely quite heavy. Please, never pick it up by its top only, as the stone pieces were put together with plaster-of-Paris, which dries out and becomes quite brittle over the years. Picking it up from the top only invites a disastrous fall to the floor, and all of the resulting damage that you can imagine!

    Others will be along to comment on the maker and date, if it can be determined. In the meantime, I'm guessing around 1880-1910 vintage.

    Hope this helps just a little!

    All my best, and WELCOME,

    George Nelson

    Ahhh... I see that Peter was posting as I was typing away... He often beats me to the punch!
     
  4. roughbarked

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    The escapement is known as a Brocot escapement.
     
  5. dAz57

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    Actually it should be called a visible escapement, brocot is the type of escapement used here which is also used between the plates in some French movements, generally with steel pallets.
     
  6. leeinv66

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    Yes, that is right dAz57. I'm not sure why I typed "open" rather than "visible", but the latter is correct. I actually have a Vienna movement that has a between the plates brocot type escapement. It is one of my best time keepers.
     
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    well a visble brocot then. ;) Yes, they are very good timekeepers.
     
  8. jmclaugh

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    A nice French marble clock with a pendule de Paris movement with an often seen combination of a Brocot suspension adjustment and visible Brocot escapement. As has been said with no makers' mark identifying one is nigh on impossible as they were produced by quite a number of makers and are a pretty standardised movement. The 4 5 is the pendulum length in French inches, i.e. 4 and 5/12.
     
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