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Vernon

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My first French clock. Does this set up for the click spring appear normal? I'm referring to the pin that the click spring backs into. The pin may be a replacement but it is solidly attached so I'm not concerned. Also, the suspension is not right as I had to add a shim at the mount and there is a lot of slop at the crutch foot. What should this look like? Thanks

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Willie X

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The original pendulum rod was much larger in diameter, or fitted with a thin rectangular brass block. The fork jaws should be parallel. Willie X
 
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Can we see a better pic of that click? It looks like they are using the click spring as the click. That spells trouble.
 

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As Willie said, the pendulum is not original. The original had a rod with a larger diameter. The click spring is also not original. Usually the spring has a tab that is screwed to the front plate. The arrangement you have looks unstable to me. Here is a picture taken from the thread "French Clock" in this section of the board that shows how the click spring would look like:


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Although the click does look like a click spring formed into a click, there should be two screws holes for the style shown by Uhralt, one for the click and another for the click spring. Looking closely at what is there, I don’t see a second screw hole, unless the pin was riveted into what was once a screw hole. With the mangled crutch foot, it seems likely someone altered the click arrangement. Even in my limited experience, I’ve seen some really strange things done to movements.
 

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Here are more pics of the click, one is the pin just poking through the rear of the plate next to the barrel. I can't imagine a screw ever being there but who knows. I will source a new pendulum rod. Should that hang from a split spring or does it matter? Thanks

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From the close ups, it appears original. The click tip is solid and fits well with the ratchet teeth. The absence of a second screw hole makes the post seem original as well. I’ve never seen this setup before, so maybe experts can shed some light on it.
 
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It looks safe enough in that last pic. I didn't see the click before ;)
 
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Uhralt

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From the close ups, it appears original. The click tip is solid and fits well with the ratchet teeth. The absence of a second screw hole makes the post seem original as well. I’ve never seen this setup before, so maybe experts can shed some light on it.
I stand corrected. I have worked on many French clocks but have never seen this arrangement. However, the picture of the back of the plate shows clearly that there wasn't a second threaded hole. Learn something new every day!

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I was so focused on the click, I see no one answered the question of whether the pendulum rod hung from a split spring. I have no idea, so hope someone else can answer.
 

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Here are more pics of the click, one is the pin just poking through the rear of the plate next to the barrel. I can't imagine a screw ever being there but who knows. I will source a new pendulum rod. Should that hang from a split spring or does it matter? Thanks

Vernon

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I have seen both split suspension springs and single suspension springs in French clocks. The important thing is that the length, thickness of the spring and the and shape of the brass mounting ends fit.

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Vernon

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Gentlemen,

Great find on those clicks at Cousins, it sure helps confirm things. I left the fork the way it came so that it could run, that will be straightened out once the new suspension and pendulum arrive. Thank you all for the help given.

Vernon
 

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Hi Tracerjack, for the french clocks you can use the s5560 or s5535 from cousins uk.
Hope this helps.
 

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