Forrestville Double OG

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  1. Jim DuBois

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    So what do you do when you have too many clocks? Why, buy more of course. This was my 3rd clock of today. These are not too common but the ones that surface are usually Forestvill made clocks. As is this one. But, other than having lost most of its original finish to excessive cleaning or light stripping, it is quite original. Nice overall patina remains. Hands, dial, mirror (wonderfully wrinkled) and decent label, and a reasonable price, it came home with me too.

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    nice looking clock...i have a forrestville clock with similar dial marking...they left the "e" off of the end of their name :???:... I've seen pictures of other forrestville dials the same way...anyone know why:???:
     
  3. Jim DuBois

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    and they spelled it with 1 "R" too....why? Good question. I think it didn't matter to a lot of people, not everyone could even read back then. So, close was good enough? I have a day journal (partial copy) from an 18th-century cabinetmaker who spelled a word 3 different ways in one day's entry, then spelled it the 4th way the next entry.
     
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    Nice find Jim, you have a good eye, the case looks pretty nice to me and the dial, glass and mirror look original. So much for only have 30 clocks in your house Does it have an eight day movement in it or is it a 30 hr?. :emoji_relaxed:
     
  5. Jim DuBois

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    It is 8 day and overall pretty decent. Pretty much original other than the overcleaned (IMO) case and missing its dust caps. I would rather have black and a bit crusty finish but sometimes you need to take it as and enjoy.
     
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    I think the correct spelling is Forestville (one "R"), as on your clock, though I'm ready to be proved wrong. After the "Forestvill" on your clock is a comma, possibly to indicate the intentional omission of a letter(?). The letter may have been omitted to make it all fit into a neat, symmetrical little semi-circle. And, as you say, "it [probably] didn't matter to a lot of people", and the rest probably didn't even notice.
     
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    I defer to the good work of Dr. Taylor and Ken Roberts. And like others, I manage to spell entirely too many things wrong, like here! I can spell Forestville at least 2 or 3 ways in my own thread.

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    Always did like those 8 day double door Forestvill(e) ogees. Still have never owned one.

    I have had clocks by that maker, including an 8 day single door ogee and a big sleigh front, where the wooden dials had Forestvill without the "e". This is a well documented misspelling. For example, see:

    https://docs.nawcc.org/Bulletins/1980/articles/1988/256/256_413.pdf

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    https://docs.nawcc.org/Bulletins/1980/articles/1985/237/237_461.pdf

    Not a rarity by any means. As JD indicated below, a common explanation is that spellings of words and place names weren't always weren't standardized and literacy may not have been as widespread. As a side comment, I believe that the rates of illiteracy in those days in certain populations may be overstated. My personal theory is that reading was important to New Englanders and other groups that eschewed various forms of religious iconography. Reading was important as they had to be able to read and learn the bible.

    Yes, you are living up to your name of "Mr. Ogee" :rolleyes:

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    Here is the scary part " Born 1805, died 1872. Self-taught, having had only 6 weeks’ schooling. In his 19th year he set up as a clock and watchmaker between Shannonville and Jeffersonville in Montgomery County." And he was very much an innovator, inventor, and maker of clocks, watches, tower clocks, and lighthouse bell strike mechanisms. But, to your point Bob reading and writing was important. What I still don't understand but greatly appreciate is a large number of documents done in calligraphy style handwriting...document after document.
     
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    Yes, sometimes the time spent in formal schooling was rather brief. Look at Abraham Lincoln. Very little & intermittent formal education. Largely self-taught & driven by a lifelong love of learning.

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