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[Term]

HI,

I just aquired the above Glass dome anniversary clock which is missing its suspension spring for the pendulum. Does anyone have any idea what size and/or length it requires??
It looks just like a Kudo clock by the way, rose dial and all.
Timersavers.com does have an assortment kit is that the way to go?

 

[Term]

HI,

I just aquired the above Glass dome anniversary clock which is missing its suspension spring for the pendulum. Does anyone have any idea what size and/or length it requires??
It looks just like a Kudo clock by the way, rose dial and all.
Timersavers.com does have an assortment kit is that the way to go?

 

[shutterbug]

You can get the springs in packs of three, but we'll need to see a picture of the back plate without the spring guard in place in order to tell you which spring you'll need. Get as close as you can, and try to get a nice clear photo. If you can't post a photo, tell us everything that is stamped on the back. Most of those types used a .023, but it's better to know for sure.

 

[Term]

Here is a picture of the movement.
Any help on the type of spring would br great.

View attachment 2587

 

[Term]

Also, where can I find a repalcement brass base?
Mine is cracked.

 

[harold bain]

Term, your clock has plate #1105, which needs a .0032" spring. Finding a replacement base will be difficult. You could try Bill Ellison, at the Horolovar Company in Michigan. I don't have his number handy, but you can email him at horolovar@juno.com
Harold

 

[Term]

At timesavers they have complete units, can I get one of these and if so which one?
One page 21 of their online catelog they list some with the blocks and forks in place. I think I need one of these because I dont have the lower piece that connects to the pendulum.
Thanks for the advice I'm having a ball tinkering with this piece.

 

[harold bain]

Term, those assemblies are notorious for being wrong thickness. Timesavers has bottom blocks.
#15667 will likely work for you. Suspension spring #10484 is a three pack, so if you don't get it right the first time, try again. I find that if you don't use Horolovar springs, it's a crapshoot whether it will work or not.
Harold

 

[Term]

Harold thanks for all your help. I have ordered what I need, if I have any more issues I'll post when I receive the order.
Thanks Again!

 

[Term]

I have gotten the parts from timesavers but the .0032 spring but it is to long. Do you cut it to suit your needs
Its the .0032 - .081 mm

 

[Bill_NY]

Term,
Yes, I happen to use a small pair of good, tight and sharp scissors for that task. Any very sharp cutter would work though. Just make sure that you cut it long enough!

Regards,
Bill

 

[Term]

Well I'm still plugging away.
Got clock all back together and its runs for about half hour before pendulum slowly stops rotating.
Whats the first thing to look at?
Nothing seems to be binding. Is fork placement important?
Thanks for the continued help.

 

[leeinv66]

Hi Term, fork placement can be critical in some 400-day clocks. You may need to experiment a bit by moving the fork up or down a mil or two. Also, you can try tilting the fork up or down slightly. But first make sure you have enough power in the escapement. When you push the anchor pin past the mid point, it should snap towards the side. If you don’t have a good action, the clock will not run. Sometimes after reassembly, it pays to run the movement without the anchor in place to make sure the oil has found its way into all the pivot holes. I hope this is of some help!

Cheers
Peter

 

[harold bain]

Term, the most important thing is to get it in beat. If not in beat, it will not run. Fork needs a gap about the thickness of a piece of paper, also important. Did you remove spring, and clean and oil it?
Harold

 

[shutterbug]

Term - use "find" to search for how to get the clock in beat. In my previous post I said the spring size would be .023, but I reversed the numbers - it should have read .032 which Harold pointed out. If you get it in beat, it should run. Harold was talking about the main spring being cleaned and oiled, not the one you installed, but the way. How did you determine the length of the suspension spring? Oh, and one more obvious question - is the clock wound up? It probably winds counter clock-wise.

 

[Term]

Yes the clock is wound up, I did not clean the spring but I will try that. The fork does not snap back and forth, should it?
Basically how do these clocks work? What makes the pendulum and wire keep going?
Is it the fork that pushes the spring back and forth?

 

[Rod]

Term,The best thing you can do is get the book!If you want to work on these little glass and brass beauties it will be the best bucks you will ever spend..

Rod

 

[Rod]

Term,Sorry.I should have said"Get the 400 day clock repair guide,10th edition" You will find it very important reading if you plan on working on these clocks.

Rod

 

[shutterbug]

Term - the fork should move the upright post that fits between it back and forth with equal swing on both sides. You adjust this by moving the top suspension bracket in small increments until the beat is even. If you get it right, it will run

 

[Term]

I took your suggestion shutterbug and moved the post and it seems to be getting better, thanks.
I am getting the book which will help me a lot.