Farringdon D on Waltham

Discussion in 'American Pocket Watches' started by Jerry Matthews, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  1. Jerry Matthews

    Jerry Matthews Registered User

    Sep 20, 2005
    961
    0
    0
    Retired
    Sussex, England
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    I have a size 14 Waltham, serial number 2538611 dates it to 1884-85. The silver hunter case is by Arthur Bedford, with the Birmingham hallmark for 1884-85.

    The movement is clearly inscribed Farrdigdon D. The Waltham webside says it is Harringdon D. Which is right, and who or what was Farringdon/Harringdon?
     
  2. Jerry Matthews

    Jerry Matthews Registered User

    Sep 20, 2005
    961
    0
    0
    Retired
    Sussex, England
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    I have a size 14 Waltham, serial number 2538611 dates it to 1884-85. The silver hunter case is by Arthur Bedford, with the Birmingham hallmark for 1884-85.

    The movement is clearly inscribed Farrdigdon D. The Waltham webside says it is Harringdon D. Which is right, and who or what was Farringdon/Harringdon?
     
  3. Tom McIntyre

    Tom McIntyre Technical Admin
    Staff Member NAWCC Star Fellow NAWCC Ruby Member Sponsor

    Aug 24, 2000
    81,991
    1,414
    176
    Male
    retired SW dev
    Boston
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Well... To make it even more confusing are you sure it does not say Farringdon D? The handwritten records are difficult to read and the transcriber apparently misread an "F" as an "H." I am pretty sure the others I have seen are marked "Farringdon" not "Farrdigdon."

    I will correct the entry in the database.
     
  4. Jerry Matthews

    Jerry Matthews Registered User

    Sep 20, 2005
    961
    0
    0
    Retired
    Sussex, England
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Many thanks Tom. The "Farrdigdon" was my bad typing. Sorry. Of course it is Farringdon D on the movement. Do we know who Mr Farringdon was?

    Jerry
     
  5. Tom McIntyre

    Tom McIntyre Technical Admin
    Staff Member NAWCC Star Fellow NAWCC Ruby Member Sponsor

    Aug 24, 2000
    81,991
    1,414
    176
    Male
    retired SW dev
    Boston
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    I believe that Farringdon was one of serveral Waltham distributors in the UK. Some of these operated out of facilities called Waltham Depots.
     
  6. Dunwerkin

    Dunwerkin New Member

    Aug 6, 2010
    2
    0
    0
    A bit of an old post this one, but I hope someone picks my message up.

    I have my Grandfather's pocket watch which says (definitely) "FARRINGDON H." on the dial. The movement is signed "Regd - THE FARRINGDON H. - WALTHAM, MASS. serial no. 3963179. It would appear that the movement was made in the USA then as I assume the MASS is for Massachusetts. It tends to point to the "Farringdon" being a specific model of Waltham?

    The silver case is hallmarked Birmingham anchor and dates 1886 with the lion purity mark. It has a maker's mark A.B which appears to have been registered to the Waltham Watch Co. UK. The maker's mark was used between 1882 and 1900 (so fits with the essay mark) and the holder was an Alfred Bedford who was the manager of the Waltham Watch Co. Holborn Circus London. Both the back and inner back of the case are stamped 76 which is perhaps a case number.

    Hope this is of interest and that someone can tell me more.

    I have no idea of the value of these pieces, but I would never part with it anyway.
     
  7. eastkan

    eastkan Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Feb 12, 2014
    2
    0
    0
    I just bought an 1883 Waltham key wind Monday. It is marked on the dial and movement The Farringdon H Reg. D. It too is in an English hallmarked triple hinge open face case. The dial is an unsunk porcelain with Roman numerals. The minute and hour hands are a gold color, with a blued second hand. The serial # is 3,365,328. It is in the cleaning machine as I'm making this post. -------- Bill Miller/eastkan
     
  8. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,535
    1,973
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    I just posted a model 83 in "My First Railroad Grade Watch" thread. It is a model 83 Key wind
    Appleton Tracy &Co grade. The retailer you have referenced specialized in retailing Waltham
    model 77 & 83's. Now this one is not English, but it is close to your serial number range as
    a comparison. sn#3,415,797

    Keith

    View attachment 294163
     
  9. topspin

    topspin Registered User

    Dec 14, 2014
    1,345
    131
    63
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    And a lovely sound it will make too once it's running again.

    I have not yet figured out whether "Farringdon" was named after the area in central London that's just down the road from Holborn Circus (where the depot was) or after a family of the same name (which would explain the initials, e.g. H, J, K, D for four brothers perhaps.)
     
  10. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,535
    1,973
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    I remember a Jerry Mathews from the UK back in my days when I was peg leg.
    Good to see you post Jerry. Another pal of mine returned also, Oliver. One
    of my favorite retailers across the pond is Fattorini & Sons.

    Keith
     
  11. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,535
    1,973
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Here is Fattorini & Sons with an AB stamp, but case is made by Dennison.
    Third photo after service/COA.

    Keith

    103_8123 (800x600).jpg 103_8147 (800x600).jpg View attachment 294783
     
  12. Les harland

    Les harland Registered User

    Apr 10, 2008
    1,396
    116
    63
    Male
    Hertfordshire England
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
  13. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,535
    1,973
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Yes Les, but as former gold & silversmiths. Keith
     
  14. Les harland

    Les harland Registered User

    Apr 10, 2008
    1,396
    116
    63
    Male
    Hertfordshire England
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    It is nice to know that some of the mid nineteenth century companies, talked about on, here are still going
     

Share This Page