Extra cheap cuckoo movement.

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  1. Willie X

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    Anyone ever see a cuckoo movement with the click wheels made of plastic? This one was unmarked and made in 1981, not a Hubert Herr or Regula. You can guess what the plastic click wheels look like ... Ha
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  2. Chris D

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    Wow! I thought I knew cuckoo's but I've never seen one with plastic click wheels(other than the music box)! Please share a pic of the movement. Sounds like the perfect candidate for a new movement.
     
  3. Bruce Alexander

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    Yeah, doesn't sound like that one was made to last very long. Extra-cheap! More cheap than you bargained for, eh? :chuckling:
     
  4. Chris D

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    Hold on! Willie is Canadian too?
     
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    Never heard of a plastic click. Sounds like a sub-smart idea.
     
  6. Bruce Alexander

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    Considering what can happen when a mainspring lets loose, the word "negligence" comes to mind but I like "sub-smart" better. :)
     
  7. Willie X

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    I will try to send a photo. At a glance I thought it was a Hubert Herr #60. The first tip-off will be the clear plastic backer for the minute hand adjuster. The adjuster is made just like a Regula except the minute hand shaft is smaller and the square at the end of the shaft is smaller.
    If you see that clear plastic behind the minute hand ... beware.
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    Ah, we're talking weights not springs. Still seems like all hell can break loose with a falling weight or free-spinning key. I wouldn't want a clock outfitted with plastic ratchets.
     
  9. Chris D

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    Willie, if that's the correct picture, it's the same one that we commented on a few posts down. I call them 'Cuckoo Clock Mfg' movements. I know that not who made it, but that company used them. What part is plastic?
     
  10. Willie X

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    #10 Willie X, Apr 24, 2018
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    Ratcet wheels, both minute hand drive wheels (not unusual), strike activation cam, all motion works gears, snail and hour pipe and the minute hand adjuster (behind the minute hand).
    This crapey movement is in a nicely carved case from 1981. It has a nice music box activated by the cuckoo pearch wire (never seen that before) and a fox chacing rabbits in a sub-terianium lare within the large carving at the bottom of the case. What a mess ...
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  11. David S

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    Willie any chance you can get a pic of the ratchet wheel? Also what does the click look like and made of?

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    Ah yes, I know that one! The fox on a spinning turntable at the bottom of the clock. Don't get intimidated, focus on the movement. Once you get that done it's downhill somewhat. You'll still probably need to rebuild the music box. Then it's just a matter of adjusting. Still baffled by the plastic ratchet wheels though, never seen those.
     
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    hhhhmmmpppfff.tt. I guess its cardboard and rubberbands next.
     
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    I've never encountered a plastic click wheel. I do think we are sometimes too quick to call any non-metallic part "plastic" and equate it with the styrene plastic that many of our childhood toys were made of - the brittle stuff with little strength and would crack or snap if we just looked at it too long. The term does an injustice to many modern manufactured non-metal materials. I have no idea what these "plastic" click wheels are made of but have to ask, Are they working OK? Are there any signs of cracks or indications that failure is likely? They may indeed be crap, but one needs be careful not to allow past experiences with other "plastics" influence his or her opinion of all "plastics". At least these parts won't rust!

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  15. Willie X

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    ALL the teeth are off.
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    I have one, all metal no plastic, if you're interested.

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    That could be a problem!
     
  18. Bruce Alexander

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    Neither will Brass, which is a proven material. The only reason I can imagine for going to some type of plastic would be to trim costs.

    SB's "sub-smart" comment comes to mind. I wouldn't want the health of my fingers and hands depending on plastic ratchets. This experiment definitely failed so I have to ask if they even tested these parts? I'm guessing they must have lasted at least as long as the warranty...and probably not much longer.
     
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    I would be interested in what the click was made of.

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  20. Chris D

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    They definitely make plastic click wheels. I've only seen them on the music box though. Here's one I'm just about finished with, 1977 date code. Wheel seems fine so far so I'm leaving it.

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  21. Willie X

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    Chris,
    The one I have, with the plastic click wheels, is unmarked. It's not a Hubert Herr. I replaced it with a Regulla 25 (medium pend length) with just a couple of mods. Funny that this extra cheap movement was fitted with 420gm weights. Willie X
     

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