Ever seen such an verge escapement in an English bracket clock??

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  1. P.Hageman

    P.Hageman Registered User

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    Wonder if anyone seen such an verge escapement arrangement in an English bracket clock? It looks as if the escapement flags are bolted on. Could this be original?

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  2. brian fisher

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    I dont know that a simple verge is uncommon, but the crown wheel style you have there is. This is very reminiscent of pre 1850 comtoise.
     
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    It looks like a homemade construction of the pallets. It would allow them to be adjusted, which might have some benefit.
     
  4. Dave T

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    That was my first thought too. Wonder if it isn't really a Comtoise. Show us the rest of the movement, please.
     
  5. novicetimekeeper

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    It looks much later in construction than I suspect the verge was, welcome back by the way. You were missed.
     
  6. Dave T

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    I should have taken a closer look at the picture. I see it also has a winding arbor with an increasingly larger stepped up diameter, similar to a fusee?
     
  7. P.Hageman

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    Thanks Nick, yes I had an "unpleasant" time, but it's getting better now. This clock is for sale and I wondered about the verge arrangement, think it is an afterthought. Here's a rather dull picture of the backplate of the movement.

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  8. JTD

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    Could we please see the whole clock (from the front)?

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  9. brian fisher

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    looks English by the last pic. perhaps the maker simply had a wild hair and decided to try something experimental.
     
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    I think, having see the backplate, it might be a repair. It looks like a chap way of making a new verge arbour.
     
  11. Jeremy Woodoff

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    Wouldn't the weight of the escapement flags above the arbor create a compound pendulum effect, significantly altering the timekeeping? If that's true, perhaps they are original. Also, the screws look old.
     
  12. Burkhard Rasch

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    I don´t ant to be too demanding,but I would like to see a video of this beast working,from different angles.Verry interesting!
    BTW good that You´re back!
    Burkhard
     
  13. P.Hageman

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    Thanks Burkhard, feeling much better now. This clock is not mine, it was (is) for sale and the movement did interest me. If the price was right I would buy it only for the movement, but I passed on it. I think the case is not genuine to the age of the movement.
     

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