Escape wheel woes.

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  1. dumpsterdiver

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    So, this is off a Wag on wall from a client's clock. My first clue of "interesting" repairs was that the two removable panels were epoxied into the frame. Once I got those out I found this. It looks like someone took a Dremel grinder to it. Since it is this section I was thinking of setting up my mill and cutting back the teeth and re-tipping them. Anyone ever tip this many teeth or is cutting a new wheel faster? teeth.JPG image.png
     
  2. bangster

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    What in the Hey was somebody thinking? :emoji_anguished::emoji_confounded:
     
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  3. R&A

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    Why don't you just make a new one if you going to go to all that trouble. You will have to make more changes if you do this to the Verge also.
     
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  4. Dick Feldman

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    How does your luck run?
    Depending on the diameter of the wheel and the number of teeth, you might find a suitable replacement at Timesavers or one of the other suppliers.
    It is not impossible to cut a new escape wheel.
    What method do you plan to use if that is your option?
    Do you have the proper tooling to make a cutter?
    Or do you have a suitable cutter?
    Does the clock owner know that straightening out that mess may cost more than six of those clocks are worth?
    That may be the deciding factor.

    Dick
     
  5. Dick Feldman

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    Oh, Was the previous clock repairer and the owner the same person?
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  6. R. Croswell

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    In my opinion, that wheel is history. I wouldn't waste any time on it. What Dick said, see if a new one from Timesavers will fit. I believe they also sell escape wheels with matching verge, which probably would need final finishing and adjustment.

    RC
     
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  7. shimmystep

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    I agree with Robert. Personally I'd make a new one, or find a replacement.
     
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  8. Joseph Bautsch

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    Agreed, it’s toast. Maybe Timesavers will have the escape wheel and verge set you need.
     
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  9. dumpsterdiver

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    I will probably end up doing that. I was just seeing if I could salvage the old one. Thanks!
     
  10. dumpsterdiver

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    Haha, Someone else had worked on it and not the owner. It is a wag in a tall case and has been in their family for a couple of generations. So she is attached to it.
     
  11. dumpsterdiver

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    Oh, and I have a mill and CNC rotary table. I have made wheels for bell strikes but I have not made an escape wheel since I was in school 11 years ago. I'll have to find my notes from that class.
     
  12. kinsler33

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    I don't know why, but I didn't have any luck with the one verge/escape wheel set I bought from Timesavers for a fifty-tooth escapement. I'd expected it to be fairly foolproof, but it wasn't.

    Since I have neither Mr D.Diver's equipment nor his skill my own inclination would be to try to clean up that escape wheel as best I could with a suitable file.
     
  13. dumpsterdiver

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    I am going to fuss with it some just for my own interest.
     
  14. Keith Conklin

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    I might be mistaken but looking closely at those photos, I wanna bet that someone made that wheel by hand.
    If that is the case I am kinda impressed at the effort.
     
  15. R. Croswell

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    That's not surprising, nothing about an escapement is going to be "foolproof" except perhaps an exact replacement part from the original maker and even that may require adjustment. I've found the escape wheels from Timesavers to be OK but the verges usually require considerable work.

    RC
     
  16. Willie X

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    If you have the proper files and a lot of time and patience, it should be doable. I always start by undoing all the bends in the bent teeth with round nose pliers or big tweezers. Willie X
     

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