Elijah Bills 30 Hr

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  1. Richard T.

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    #1 Richard T., Jul 31, 2011
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    Greetings All,

    I have had this clock for a number of years and after receiving a new gear and associated pinion from George Bruno, I haven't gotten around to putting it back together:).

    Elijah Bills is listed in Loomis, 21st Cent Edition as Plymouth CN, 1830 - 1838. The label clearly has Colebrook River, Conn. Haven't looked at a map but it could be nearby (Plymouth).

    I must move it up my priority list..............if I can find the list.

    Any comments or information welcomed.


    Photos continued........The movement photos were too large and I had to re-size them.

    Best,

    Richard T.
     

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  2. rmarkowitz1_cee4a1

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    I've heard of Elijah Bills...can't offer much info about him.

    I would suspect the stencilling is redone. The floral dial is nice. Great label.

    But, I'm very confused. This clock is a real antique and not made in Germany. I'm not sure you're allowed to post this sort of thing on the MB.

    I'm feeling very uncomfortable now.

    RM
     
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    Hello RM, Thanks for the post.............:)

    I agree, the stencilling has been redone.

    Best,

    Richard t.
     
  4. gilbert

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    The name Colebrook River tweaked my interest as I hadn't heard of it before. Googling around a bit it appears it was a village in the town of Colbrook on the banks of the Farmington river. It is now underwater when a damn was built in the 1950's creating a Reservoir. I drive by there on occasion.
    The town of colebrook is about 27 miles north of Plymouth , pretty close to Winsted area.
     
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    :confused: This IS the sectionfor wooden works clocks, and this sure is a fine example. What does not being made in Germany have to do with it?

    Looking forward to seeing it when its finished.
     
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    I agree. Nice example of a clock with a less often encountered label. I too would like to see when it's all together.

    The printer is an E.J. Bull in Lee, MA. Is that in the general area?

    RM
     
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    Lee is about 32 driving miles NW of Colebrook, a few miles further then Hartford,Ct (where other pronters were)
     
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    Also for dating things, in looking at history of that area in Massachusetts I found references that indicate E.J. Bull opened a printing office in Lee in 1840.
     
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    That is a really nice clock.You must be quite happy you have the part that was missing and the restoration is finished.Its in great shape, likely you have done alot of restoring on this clock.
     
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    #10 Peter A. Nunes, Aug 1, 2011
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    What a wonderful clock, with a spectacular label. Elijah Bills was a fairly low production maker, compared with some, anyway. The movement looks to be a product of Elisha Hotchkiss, though I can't be sure due to certain unclear details. The stenciling has unfortunately been updated, but the mirror looks like it might be original- a picture of the back of the door would tell the tale. Colebrook, Connecticut is indeed inundated, under the Colebrook Reservoir (see Google Earth). Just a sharp and stunning label.
     
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    There is an interesting reason why paper made before the civil war often survives in better condition that later paper. Check out the free article "Paper Chase" on this page http://www.unicornbookshop.com/articles/by-jim.html (Jim is also quite a clock collecior and his little book shop is full of old clocks.)
     
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    Thanks for this, he has a very interesting and informative website.
     
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    My understanding it's basically due to the use of rags for older paper vs. the more modern and amenable to mass production wood pulp based paper which is acidic leading to it's own deterioration.

    However, as many who collect works on paper and epehemera are aware, even old rag paper in contact the the wood back board of say a frame damages the item. So still pretty amazing that this thin piece of relatively low grade (like newsprint) rag paper glued to wood has survived so well.

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    I’ll take that as a complement – I designed, and maintain his web site. Jim is sort of the unofficial historian of our small town. We put up the site to share all the interesting and obscure artifacts that we have found about our town. It's a labor of love. (I don't design sites commercially.)

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