Elgin pocket watch

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  1. Tanja

    Tanja Registered User

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    Hello, everybody!
    Can anybody give me some information on this pocket watch?

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  2. Dave Coatsworth

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    Hello Tanja and welcome!

    Please open the back of the watch and take a photo of the movement (the 'works'). Make sure we can clearly see the serial number on the movement (not the case) or provide us with that serial number.
     
  3. Tanja

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    I don’t even know how to open it
     
  4. Tanja

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    Is this the serial number?

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  5. GeneJockey

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    Yep.

    Grade 210, made around 1899. 16 size, 7 jewel. Interesting damaskeening!
     
  6. Tanja

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    Is it worth restoring or selling?
     
  7. Dave Coatsworth

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    We are not allowed to discuss values in this forum. There is a forum at the bottom of the main page where you can. However, simply searching completed eBay listings for "Elgin 210" should provide you with an answer.
     
  8. Tanja

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    I can’t really find a pocket watch with a 1/4 second hand.
     
  9. richiec

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    That is a dial to convert the movement from a hunter case to an open face case, lots around, definitely not rare by any means. they usually ended up this way because the cases were scrapped for the gold or silver. Seven jewel watches are not highly coveted or sought. If it runs, you are in good shape because paying to repair it, unless it is a family heirloom will exceed any value.
     
  10. Tanja

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    Thank you so much! It works and we will definitely keep it in the family!
     
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  11. Bildeborg

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    A little more detailed info Tanja.

    Grade: 210


    Manufacturer: Elgin question.png
    Manufacturer Location: Elgin, Illinois question.png
    Movement Serial Number: 9057056 question.png
    Grade: 210 question.png
    Model: 6 question.png
    Class: 92 question.png
    Estimated Production Year: 1901 estimated production year of the movement within +/- 3 years"
    Run Quantity: 5,000 question.png
    Total Production: 178,000 question.png
    Size: 16s question.png
    Jewels: 7j question.png
    Movement Configuration: Hunting
    Hunting: The stem is at the 3:00 position, and the movement is meant to be mounted in a case that has a covering over the face. "Sidewinders" are hunting movements in openface cases."

    Movement Finish: Nickel question.png
    Movement Setting: Pendant question.png
    Plate: 3/4 Plate question.png
    Barrel: Going question.png
    Train: Quick question.png
    Regulator: Plain question.png
    Hairspring: Breguet question.png
    Escapement Type: Straight-line question.png
    Adjusted: No question.png
    Railroad Grade: No question.png
    Quality Rating: question.png
    U.S. Patents: 77078, 596407

    Regards,

    Jay.
     
  12. Kent

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    Hi Tanja:

    Please add my welcome to the others'.

    You can see a catalog description of the grade No. 210 movement, along with a picture and where it fits in Elgin's line of 16-size movements, in the lower right-hand corner of page 74 of the Otto Young & Co. 1903 OY Company Jewelry Catalog.

    If you tell us the markings stamped inside the back of the watch case (or post a picture of them), we may be able to tell you something about it. You can ignore any "hand-scratched" characters, they're probably Watch Repairers' Marks.

    Unless you know that it has been properly cleaned and oiled within the last few years, you should have the watch serviced before running it very much. It may be helpful for you to read the Encyclopedia article on Watch Service and its related links, especially the one to the message board thread on the subject. The Encyclopedia article on Choosing a Pocket Watch Repair Person may be useful as well.

    Having gathered and printed out information about a family watch (once we find as much as we can for you), it is a wise idea to write out as much as you know about the family member to whom the watch originally belonged - or as far back as you can go, including (and clearly identifying) what you can guess. Then, add the names and relationships of the family members who passed it down to the current holder. Make up a booklet with this and all of the watch information and try to keep it with the watch. You might even include a CD or, better yet, a USB thumb drive with copies of the pictures or information, in addition to the printouts. Even though they may not be readable 100 years from now, some more recent descendent may transfer the files to the then current format and media. This way, the watch has real family heritage instead of it just being an old family watch, the identity and relationship of the original owner having been lost in the distant past.

    Please feel free to ask about anything that isn't clear to you.

    Good luck,

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