Elgin no open

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  1. f.webster

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    Here I am again...remember I am new to watches.
    So I found this Elgin wristwatch. The case says Elgin and 10k (gold filled I am guessing). I recognize that this is not the most expensive watch but I would like to practice cleaning etc. The dial says Elgin, is that a fancy E(?), and waterproof.

    I can't seem to get the thing open. Guidance please.

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    "10k R G P" means 10 karat Rolled Gold Plate, which is like gold filled but with less gold.

    If you can't find a seam, it's probably a front-loader. With those, the stem is two pieces. One holds the crown, the other extends into the movement and does the things stems do. One fits into the other, snapping together or apart.

    The movement is removed by first snapping the stem apart, then removing the crystal with a crystal lift. The movement can then taken out through the front.
     
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    Snapping the stem apart sounds like scary news. Make sure that there is no seam before using the round nose pliers to gently pull the male/female stem apart at the join.
     
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    Looking at the rear view, the stem and crown, could this be a 'push out' model, where the thumbs can be used to push the crystal out, forcing the central part of the body out?
     
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    thank you for not suggesting that I crack it open like an egg. LOL
     
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    Hi f.webster,

    This Bulova has a case very similar to yours, with a solid back, but it does have a seam where the bezel is removed, although it took me a little time to spot it, (and it was a very tight fit!):

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    I took this watch to the Kentuckiana Watch Collectors meeting on Sunday. Nice group of members. They quickly identified me as a clock-guy who whats to learn about watches. Several of the members had opinions of this watch. The opinions ranged from "why fit it" to "nice mechanical watch". One of the members explained to me how the watch opened and then produced the right tool for the job. This mechanical movement is a 15 jewel movement and repairable. Then the watch was put back together so I could carry it home without damage. Along with the brief education, I was shown where I could order the tool I needed with free shipping.

    Thank you Genejockey, roughbarked, Tomxhar, and gmorce for you willingness to encourage and mentor this "clock-guy who wants to learn watches". I will keep you posted as I get this watch to wearable and reliable.
     
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    So, how did he take it apart?
     
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    Well, ;) If it was a one piece case, he probably used compressed air? Basically an empty syringe will do this.
    If there was a seam, he probably used a knife?
     
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    I was shown where I could order the tool I needed with free shipping.

    This suggests it wasn't a knife, since nobody has to be told where to get a knife. ;)

    Also, it might have been a crystal lift. People use those instead of compressed air. Like, say, me for instance.
     
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    One can get an empty syringe at any pharmacist.
     
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    Or in my case, go to the supply rack over by the Cell Culture Lab.

    So far, though, I haven't encountered any one-piece cases that didn't have stepped crystal, so the crystal lift works for me.
     
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    Yes. However, every time you do so you risk cracking the crystal around the edge.
     
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    As GenJockey suggested. The tool I ordered was a crystal lift.
     

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