Elgin made cars??

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  1. rmarkowitz1_cee4a1

    rmarkowitz1_cee4a1 Registered User
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    I haven't done an extensive MB or Bulletin search, so this may be old news to many.

    One of my favorite websites is barnfinds.com. This is a website that posts antique and vintage vehicles, mostly automobiles and trucks, sometimes motorcycles and other types of vehicles, that are for sale. Most seem to be listed on Craig's list or eBay. Sometimes it is listed for sale on the barnfinds website. They also include vehicle auctions conducted by auction houses.

    They are in varying states of repair ranging from the occasional totaled or burned up vehicle to those requiring varying amounts of restoration to those already fully restored.

    The sale listings are found and the vehicles are then evaluated. A link is provided to the where the vehicle is being offered or auctioned. I find it rather interesting and some of the cars and trucks are wonderful.

    Recently, this car was listed:

    Rare Classic: 1920 Elgin Six Touring

    According to the history they provide, the principals of the Elgin Watch Company founded the company. It started in 1916. Didn't last long and the venture went under in the middle 1920's.

    I rooted around a bit on google and did find other examples and more info.

    http://theoldmotor.com/?p=48502

    https://www.pinterest.com/vogelmarketing/elgin-motor-car-company/

    There's actually quite a bit of information on line about the company.

    Thought that was interesting.

    RM
     
  2. Steven Thornberry

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    Maybe they were trying to emulate and compete with the Studebakers, some of whom built conveyances of various types, including automobiles, while others made watches (South Bend Watch Co.)?
     
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    There is a common thread with other clock related companies - for example Japy, who many will know for making clock movements in France, were a huge conglomerate who also made parts for cars amongst other things. Though while they did make complete clocks, I don't think they ever made complete cars..
     
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    Interesting. Opened my eyes to something new to me.

    Clockworks were used to drive toy cars:

    clockwork toy car.jpg

    There were French Industrial clocks that were made to look like cars:

    car clock.jpg

    However, there were apparently full sized cars that were propelled by spring driven clock works!

    Here's a guy seated on a "spring driven quadricycle":

    clockcar1.jpg

    Ran 3 hours on a wind!

    For a bit more about this and another example, see this web site:

    Powered by Clockwork.

    You will have to scroll down a bit to find it.

    If he had lived long enough, I wonder if there might have been a Jerome Mobile??

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    Pequegnat clocks in Canada made a bicyle.
     
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    I guess Howard did too:

    EHowardBike.jpg

    And:

    Bicycle Brands - The Wheelmen

    Type "howard" into the search box.

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    Jacob Hankins of Farningham had a patent for a propeller. Initially I thought he invented the propellor but it turns out to be a quadcycle with a fusee and foot wound.

    Mechanics Magazine
     
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    That's interesting!

    In an age of concern about Global Warming and a desire for "greener" modes of transportation, maybe we should revisit some of these ideas?

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    Perhaps we should, I knew nothing about him until I saw one of his clocks.
     
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    This Bulletin article discusses other horological manufacturers that were involved with bicycle manufacture and/or bicycle sundries. They needed some way to generate income when everyone's disposable income was poured into the cycling craze. It was a very interesting time.

    https://docs.nawcc.org/Bulletins/2010/articles/2019/437/437_75_79.pdf
     
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    Very interesting.

    Thanks for the link.

    RM.
     
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    I don't even want to think about being around a mainspring that could propel a conveyance big enough to carry a person for 3 hours.
     
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    On the bicycle front there was a thriving Waltham industry and O'Hara made a great many of the badges that appeared on the front of bicycles. My friend Bob Howatt is an avid cyclist and a pretty serous horologist. I gave up on bicycles back in the early 50's when I found the brakes on my Raleigh 3 speed did not work in the rain, much to my discomfort.
     
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    That's the age when many give up such things.:rolleyes:
     
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    Really amazing array of stuff!!

    This reminds me of other unlikely companies trying to make vehicles. Crosley, a company best known for making radios and appliances, tried to make and sell some of America's first low cost economical compact (really mini) cars starting in '39 - '42) then resuming in the post-WW II period ('46 -'52) when the big, flashy, chrome-laden V-8 2 1/2 ton car was king. The original plan was to sell them through department stores, like their appliances.

    There's much about this short lived auto brand on the internet.

    For example see:

    Crosley Cars

    They were so ugly they were cute:

    crosley.jpg

    Note this one is being sold by a Maytag dealer! Guess they already sold the Crosley radios and appliances. Just adding another line??

    Today, there are very dedicated collectors of these cars. They must be more nuts than clock collectors!

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