Elgin convertible grade 86

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  1. miguel angel cladera

    miguel angel cladera Registered User

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    Finally I get the Elgin convertible grade 86. The watch is really in better condition than it looked in the seller's photos and work so accuracity. As far I know the dial and hands are wrong but it was a good opportunity to add a convertible watch to my small collection at a very reduced price. The movement like you know its an Elgin grade 86 model 2, 15 j, three fingers bridge. At Elgin database ive found

    Serial Number SN Range Quanty Name Year grade size code jewels Adj/reg/etc.
    -------------- -------- ------ ---- ---- ----- ---- ------ ------ ------------
    4470668 4470001 1000 1891 86* 16s cbn2l 15j Adj
    12668 of 16000 in grade

    grade total runs first yr last yr class size code jewels Adj/name
    ----- ----- ----- -------- ------- ----- ---- ------ ------ ----------
    86 16000 16 1880 1895 22 16s cbn2l 15j Adj



    its fitted in a Westbrook case ( I dindt have any information about) Any information will be welcome.

    Now im searching an original dials and hands. And I have some Questions about convertible watches

    When did convertible watches appear in the North American industry?

    Who invented convertible pocket watches?

    I have read that Trenton and the NY Standard also made convertible watches..were there more manufacturers?

    Thank you for your help and hope you like

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    miguel angel cladera Registered User

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    Are convertible watches an invention of the American industry?
     
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    miguel angel cladera Registered User

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    anyone can help me?
     
  4. Bryan Eyring

    Bryan Eyring Registered User
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    This is a very intriguing question. While there are "convertible" English cases stretching back into the 1850's, I am not aware of any European or English movements with the convertible feature.

    I have owned a few high grade European movements that allowed for the dial to be rotated to a hunting or open configuration. Just recently a good friend discovered a Patek split minute with said feature.

    This was certainly a distinct advantage of the snap-on dial.
     
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  5. miguel angel cladera

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    Thank you so much Bryan. I saw rotate cases and dials too but never any convertible movement in I have the intuition that its genuinely American..
     

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