Early 18th century French Cartel by Jacques Cogniet a Paris

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This came recently, looks to have been untouched for a while which is a good thing, and the movement has not been converted to anchor which I prefer.

The movement is signed Jacques Cogniet a Paris. He was working late 17th-early 18th century. Juré by the corporation 1691-1703. I would estimate a date 1700-1715 on this clock. The style is transitional between Louis XIV and Regency. High quality bronzes. The wood veneer cases are less common than the popular Boulle, I like the contrast it gives. It is a pretty good size at 34 inches.

I plan to give it a good clean and wax. The finish is distressed but I am not going to mess with it. Will clean the mounts with boiling water and dish soap, has worked very well so far but is slow going. After starting to dismantle and clean the crest, I noticed all of the bronzes are stamped with a number 2, including the top Renommée (Nike, Victory, etc) figure. They have some wear but the gilding is mostly intact, giving a nice aged look. The door lock is operational and has an original looking key, first clock I got with a working door lock lol. The trumpet is broken and bent but it still fits.

I am going to dismantle and clean the movement in the next week or so. It is solidly built with a quality verge escapement. The hands are beautifully made, as well as the dial which has retained most of its gilding. There are few nice movement details, including the spring on the fly.

Robert, a fellow member and collector, sourced a Baptismal document for Jean Baptiste son of Jacques Cogniet, dated 8 March 1690. I always find it fascinating to find out more information about these old clockmakers. A human connection to the clocks we find.

A bunch of pics (cant have too many) and some before and afters of the crest are below. Any info or comments are welcome.

Thanks,

Will

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Definitely, I think it shows a passion and pride in the work.

I forgot to add the Baptism document.

Will
 

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I think cartel has to do with the case form or general shape. If you search French auctions for "cartel" both this type of clock and wall clocks will come up. They are referred to as "poster clock", although that is not a good translation. Will can correct me if I'm wrong, I also don't know much about French clocks either.
 

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I wouldn't have called it a cartel clock but it is a lovely clock regardless.
 
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I am pretty sure this clock started life as a wall clock. It would have had a matching base/console, called a cul-de-lampe or even socle. Many examples no longer have their bases and are still referred to as cartels. This is a classic example of a French cartel, although not in the sense most are used to seeing, the term is ubiquitously used in France.

Cartel refers to the case shape which terminates in a point. I did not include a pic of the back which has an iron ring to help affix it to the wall.
 
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Whatever you call it, I call it a very lovely clock which I would be extremely happy to own.

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Lovely old clock and great job on shining up the mounts, Will!
I love the mount at lower front, which seems to me to feature a pair of stylized American Indians (with headdress, quiver of arrows).

The baptism document I was fortunate to dig up for you is essentially a transcription of an original record, made by someone who in the mid nineteenth century, catalogued records about all French "artists" (including "horlogers" or clock-watchmakers). These transcriptions, though incomplete and a bit of a challenge to search, are very useful, especially since many of the source documents (e.g. official baptism records) were destroyed in the fires perpetrated during the brief-lived Commune government in Paris in 1871. The Communards set fire to the building that held all original baptism/marriage/death records for Paris, going back hundreds of years; not only that, they also set fire to another building which held backup copies of those documents, so both official records went up in flames. Parisian authorities and dedicated genealogical enthusiasts have been painstakingly trying to reverse-document these records from other sources, but much will be lost forever. This little side-note may not be of great interest to most of the readers here, but it shows the challenges one faces when trying to flesh out the life of parisian "horlogers" during the past centuries... (one of my horological pastimes).

Robert
 

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Thanks Robert for the information and compliments. I am always looking for more information on the work and lives of these clockmakers. I find it fascinating.

Ralph, that is a beautiful clock. I love the small size. I've seen quite a few clocks from Cogniet, including two this week. A large cartel and a miniature lantern.
 

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