Pocket: Earliest Bliss Precision Timekeeper?

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  1. Dave Chaplain

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    Posting here due to the John Bliss connection ... possibly his earliest attempt to serve the maritime timekeeping market?

    - compensation curve
    - Massey 3
    - diamond end stone
    - OF silver case marked Chester 1832 [O] by [JLS] (probably Joseph Lewis Samuels), no case number, seconds register
    - seems all original, and in good condition
    - an early southern maker/retailer

    - retailer is (John) Bliss & (Edwin) Whittemore, New Orleans (partnership from about 1832-1835, when Bliss moved his family back to NY, while Whittemore continued in New Orleans with several different partners in the silverware business) - examples of their silverware are known but this is my first look at a timekeeper marked for them

    - Whittemore was later involved in a Louisiana state Supreme Court case, minimally to do with a number of watches he purchased from John Taylor for $50 each ... the gist of the case having to do with 3rd party creditor rights.

    Possibly for use as a comparing watch out of the very busy port of New Orleans?

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  2. Dave Chaplain

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    Addition / correction to the case data on the Bliss & Whittemore: the outer case has no number, but the inner dust cover has the number 9812 and an additional peculiar mark of F. R. & O. ... I've looked closely and that's an "O." rather than a stylized "Co.", although I suppose the O. could have been punched over something that was there before ...

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  3. Dave Chaplain

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    #3 Dave Chaplain, Aug 11, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2017
    For those interested in the history of John Bliss I found this web based blog which calls into question some of the details provided already by both Crossman and Whitney ... basically there was a 2nd Captain John H. Bliss which led to some confusion by Crossman and Whitney ... http://blissweb.org/blisschron.org/jbliss.html

    And to the business history contained there (beginning in 1835) should now be added the Bliss & Whittemore detail, in New Orleans, circa 1832-1835 ... :)
     
  4. Dave Chaplain

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    From the 1832 New Orleans City Directory, Orleans Parish:
    Bliss, John - watch maker, 118 Chartres St.

    And from the Orleans Parish Birth Index from 1831, John Bliss Jr. looks to have been actually born in New Orleans, in September of 1831, to John and Abby Bliss ...

    Bliss John John (father) Abby Williams (mother) M W 09/28/1831
     
  5. Dave Chaplain

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    #5 Dave Chaplain, Aug 11, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2017
    1832 Bliss & Whittemore at 19 Chartres St., New Orleans, according to this newspaper ad in Natchez MS, which looks to have 1st appeared on Jan 13, 1832 ...
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