Earliest 18s mod 6 Rockford?

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  1. beta21

    beta21 Registered User

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    I have just gotten this early 18s mod 6 Rockford in very poor condition. However, I find it quite interesting, since I have not encountered a model 6 with such a low serial number ( 142 197) before. It's a PL marked: F.J.KEMPEL. CAWKER CITY, KAN on the dial only.
    When I look at it, it seems as if it could have been conversed from a model 3. Would this be possible? What are the lowest SN's recorded on this model as yet?

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  2. Greg Frauenhoff

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    The model 6 Rockfords are really cool. Congrats.

    The top (train) plate design for the model 6 is completely different than a model 3 so the later can't be converted to the former.

    As for serial numbers, off the top of my head I recall seeing them as low as 9x,xxx.
     
  3. Keith R...

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    #3 Keith R..., Mar 8, 2018
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    Greg is correct I think. Darrah can confirm much better than I. Nice watch! Here's
    my version a few serial numbers later and in nickel (re-cased into period coin by
    others).

    Note, mine is 13J model 6. Also, Dave Coatsworth has the private label threads,
    of which yours is one of them. Find the Rockford private label thread and add your
    photo and data.

    Keith R...

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    The barrel bridge and balance cock compare closely with the model three but similarities end there. I am sure that Rockford used existing parts whenever applicable just like any other business.
    I trust SN ranges from Greg as he has been observing them (Rockford) longer than most including myself.
     
  6. beta21

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    Thanks all for interesting comments! It seems then, that the 6th model came way before the 4th and 5th? I know these model designations came later and thus this appearantly strange phenomenon would not be strange at all.
     
  7. Greg Frauenhoff

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    No, the model 6 came after the model 5 and probably the model 4 as well. Off the top of my head, the approx. dates are 1880 for the model 5, 1884 for the model 4 and probably 1886 for the model 6. The models 7 and 8 (originally known as the model of 1888) came in 1888. Keep in mind that serial number ranges were often blocked for various reasons (e.g. models) and not necessarily finished sequentially.
     

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