DENT# 2387 was on uSS Juniata

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  1. Pitmom

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    Just acquired a Dent #2387- it was on the USS Juniata 1869... I have all the papers/logs that were with it.... What is it worth? Excellent Condition looks-wise has been preserved very well, but Not sure if it actually works Absolutely gorgeous.
     
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    pictures, always pictures
     
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  3. Tom McIntyre

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    Pictures of the inside as well as the outside. Scans of a sample of the documents will get you an idea of its importance.

    If you want to ask about the value, you need to go to your user profile and check the discuss values checkbox and ask you question in the What is this clock worth or what is this watch worth forum near the bottom of the screen. Members will share their opinions on its market value but those are just opinions. It would need to be examined to get a real appraisal.
     
  4. Pitmom

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    I just added like50 pics of it I think - go to my profile and look at the album I took pics of every angle...... if there are duplicates, Im sorry... just learning. Thank you!
     
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    I just added a .ton. the album is in my profile. Sorry I didnt know you weren't Supposed +o ask value... Still learning... I just wanna know LOL
     
  6. Tom McIntyre

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    I will try putting them here where folks with no training can find them. :)
     
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    Hi Jessica, and a belated welcome to the forum,

    I think you should understand what it is you've bought; it might look like a small clock or a very large watch, but it's neither, it's a navigation instrument, just as a compass or a sextant is, and as such, it doesn't live in the same space as domestic clocks. Yes, it shows the time when it's running, but in order to do its very specialised job it's been designed to work in a particular way; for instance it's intended to run continuously and if stopped and started at random it can be seriously damaged. Marine chronometers have been compared to puppies, they need lots of care and special treatment and if neglected they quickly sicken and can die . . .

    I'm afraid I can't agree with you about its condition, because even from the external views you've posted it's apparent that there's some corrosion on the hands, the silvering on the dial is completely gone, the up-down hand is missing, and the bowl, gimbals and case are pretty scruffy, which doesn't encourage much optimism for the real state of the movement. To show the movement you'll need to unscrew the front bezel which holds the glass before you can lift the movement out of the bowl, but if you're unsure about this, please come back and ask, there's a lot of expertise with these special instruments here. Nobody can begin to hazard a guess at possible value without seeing the movement in some detail.

    Sorry to be somewhat gloomy, but on the plus side you have an instrument from a fine maker with lots of documentation on its history, and the wooden case appears to be all there. A quick Google of images of marine chronometers will show what these things should look like. If you just like it for its looks as an object, that's fine, but if you decide to have it restored to working condition you should be prepared to spend some serious money.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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    Whatever happened to the pictures?
     
  9. Tom McIntyre

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    The Media tab at the top of the screen opens the multimedia facility. You can search there by several means and their are facilities for uploading pictures and other media.

    If you click on the image above it will open the album with the pictures (in the image gallery) and show you its cover image. If you double click on that you can see all the pictures in a lightbox.

    The advantage of the media area is that you can comment on individual images and talk about the group of images. It is a bit more difficult to do that when the images are direct attachments.

    We have also increased the number of images that may be attached to a post from 10 to 20 to make the attachment usage a bit easier.
     
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    There are pics.. they are somewhere in here ...somewhere in my profile? Alot of them
     
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    Hi Jessica,

    They're in the Media library, here.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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    Hi Jessica,

    Because you've limited who can view your full profile, your Media can't be viewed from the profile that everyone can see, but the pictures can be found by searching as Tom explained.

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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    Oh, well I need to fix that I guess lol.. this website confuses me a little haha sorry
     
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    I would like to see a photo of the movement to see what condition it is in.
     
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    Hi River rat,

    We all would, although I fear that what we see may not be very encouraging!

    Regards,

    Graham
     
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    I will post the pictures of my Dent that has been restored as a comparison. Mine has the outer box replaced by a newly made box and it is not nearly as old as yours, but it does show the appearance of one in good condition.

    box.jpg boxopen.jpg boxside.jpg boxtop.jpg dial.jpg dial1.jpg dial2.jpg face.jpg movement.jpg sideview.jpg staplebal.jpg staplebal2.jpg topopen.jpg tubbottom.jpg tubinside.jpg tubnumber.jpg
     
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    Best way for photo's is the FROM PC the button next to the POST REPLY button it takes you to your computer photo's and you click the photo you want to post and done. I use a out side hosting site on most forums but it's hit and miss here if it works but the FROM PC has never failed.
     
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    The photo hosting sites have a recent history of changing their rules about displaying images on other sites. Because we lost many images to those policy changes, we now harvest all external images and save them on our servers.

    Quite often, you can just copy and paste an image from another site, but that should only be done with permission. I sometimes use the screen capture facility (PrtScr) from my own sites and just paste the screen capture here. That seems to work pretty reliably.

    I used PrtScr to capture an image of the image handler tool (the landscape picture in the tool bar). It also allows you to select attachments you have uploaded previously and insert them in the current post you are editing.

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