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  1. Omexa

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    Hi, Paul Audemars got in contact with me a little while ago and he was flying to Darwin; he was then going to drive to Kununurra to visit his mate; a distance of 827.50 km. I warned him to not pick up hitchhikers or drive at night because of Stock and Kangaroos on the road. I just got a message from my good mate Shorty who has hit a big Kangaroo 900.00km from Darwin. He is at the moment standing outside the Heartbreak Hotel waiting until it opens to get a beer. He has a long wait. I just organized a friend in the Navy to get a Car Trailer and drive to pick him and ute up. Cape Crawford is in the middle of nowhere. Regards Ray 310800.png
     
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    Thanks Ray,
    I haven't left yet - going on 8th August - to see a pal with whom I used to share a bachelor flat in Glastonbury more than 50 years ago. Haven't seen him since 1964.
    Your warnings have been endorsed by him and by several others.
    I've no intention of driving at night - much too old to be tangling with big kangaroos and stray camels - and I don't have a friend with a friend in the navy.
    I've been looking at road trains - they're scary too...........
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    How much damage did the kangaroo do?
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    Depends what he was driving . . .
     
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    If they let them drive those road trains there will be trouble.
     
  6. Omexa

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    Hi Nick, it is not the Road Train Drivers who are the problem. It is Caravan Drivers who are used to driving in the city at below 40kph and get on a Highway driving at a 100kph with a badly loaded Caravan that tail Wags. They have an accident and blame the Road Train Driver who always takes a lot of care on the road. They can see the Road Train approaching from a long way off and do they pull to the side of the road? No they don't and continue on their merry Tail Wagging way. Regards Ray 310897.jpg
     
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    #7 novicetimekeeper, Jul 18, 2017
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    I thought we were talking about the kangaroo driving
     
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    holy #### that is impressive.

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    That rig would be illegal in Canada, as they are only allowed one pup trailer behind the main rig. Here I thought it would only be the venomous snakes and salt water crocs that would be dangerous
     
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    No kangaroo would go near that, I would pull over and let him go a long way by and wait for the glow on the horizon. I realize that some of these areas are remote and deliveries are scarce but that is nuts.
     
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    Hi all, I just spoke to my Mate Shorty and his pride and Joy (Just finished restoring) is a wreck. He was not hurt and is only 600 kilometers away at the Highway Inn. It was not a Kangaroo that he hit but a Cow or a Bull; in the Dark he was not sure and a bit dazed. Regards Ray
     
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    Hi, here is the Highway Inn; I am not sure if people realize how vast the Northern Territory is. Regards Ray 310915.jpg
     
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    Hi, well every boy when I was young wanted to be a Fireman or a Truck Driver. Here is the 1934 supposedly first Road Train; there were other private ventures and of course the Camel Train. The post was delivered to Darwin by Camel Train in the late 1920's; at times when I get things by Australia Post I think that it is still coming by Camel Post. I think that the Northern Territory has the largest amount of feral Camels in the World (they are actually Dromedaries) I have ridden both the Bactrian Camel and the Dromedary Camel. Regards Ray
     
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    #14 novicetimekeeper, Jul 19, 2017
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    The roads are like Roman roads aren't they? Presumably why the road trains are possible.
     
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    I do.
    I've been doing some research in the last week or two.
    My 500 miles (sorreee 800Km!) from Darwin to Kununurra won't even scratch the surface.
    Originally a travel agent told me to fly into Perth. I asked my mate Pete how long it would take to drive from there to Kununurra, - "About a week, if you hurry".

    The road trains worry me just a bit. Ray and others say how disciplined the drivers are - but I bet there's the odd cowboy. Pete also warned me about the "grey nomads" and their caravans who proliferate at this time of year.

    I hope I don't get so dazed I can't see the difference between a cow (or a bull) and a kangaroo - but I guess I may have misread that. And as for feral camels - I am definitely NOT driving at night! I am told there are also feral donkeys who can get quite aggressive..........? Or is he winding me up?

    Yes, I know I could fly, but I want to see some of the country at ground level (crocs and all).

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    How about this one then?
    Although I'm not sure it's Australian
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    Hi Paul, I think your photo is like the photos of mining trucks one behind the other. My Mate Shorty has changed his story a few times; he is back in Darwin and I will have a look at the vehicle; he may have fallen asleep and run off the road. I will get a report from the factory owner just up from the Factory that Shorty owns. This photo is a Cattle Round-up. There are also Brumbies running around. Regards Ray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brumby 310940.jpg
     
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    OK, I give up.
    What's a brumby?
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    Hi Paul, a feral Horse; there are thousands of them in the Northern Territory and in the Northern Territory (NT) feral camels are found in over 40% of the land area. Camels were first introduced into Australia from the Canary Islands in 1840. There are now over one million feral camels in Australia and that population may double in size every nine years. Regards Ray
     
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    Illegal in the USA also.
    Here's a brumby on Wikipedia.
     
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    That thing looks like an accident waiting to happen! How could you even pass that thing if you needed to?
     
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    Hi, I just spoke to my Mate Shorty and he does not know what he hit, it ran into the scrub after the accident; probably died later. There is about AU$2000.00 damage. Regards Ray
     
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    I call, "Shopped".
    There's no way that could be real.
     
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    A cow?, probably a water Buffalo, roos are bad enough but a buffalo can make real mess of a car.
     
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    This is turning into a fairly serious list of hazards:
    Buffalo,
    Cows,
    Feral Brumbies,
    Kangaroos,
    Feral Donkeys
    Feral Camels
    Dingos
    Road trains
    Grey Nomads

    - anything else? Crocs? Lizards? Wallabies? Cane toads?
    - do I really want to do this after all?
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    I'd love to see someone try to back it up:whistle:
     
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    Hi Paul, don't get discouraged, there are also UFO'S. I would put "Grey Nomads" top of the Danger list, there are also a few Fitness Nuts who Cycle with Trailer attached; they are only a Danger to themselves. When you get to the Top End you will have a really good time. You are coming at the right time of the year, the Dry Season, No Build up (extreme Humidity), No Tropical Downpours, No Cyclones, just lots of Sunshine. I came to Darwin 25 Years ago and never left. I should mention that out of the 2 seasons "Wet, Dry" that we have, I prefer the Wet Season with lots of Tropical Rain, Storms, Lightening and sometimes Cyclones; some people say I am Stark Raving Mad. Regards Ray
     
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    I meant Lightning not the other word. Regards Ray
     
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    I'm not discouraged, maybe very slightly apprehensive.

    But I can't think why.
    I did my apprenticeship as a business traveller going by car to communist eastern Europe in the sixties and seventies.
    The wildlife there wore big hats and long grey coats, carried guns, and snooped on me 24/7.
    Later my English boss - in his total, utter and abject ignorance of geography - calmly added "Africa" to my remit. Oh, and I was already doing western Europe anyway. But that's all another story.

    In fact I am really looking forward to Oz.
    Being serious for a minute, I had a shocking and very sad upheaval in my life last year. This is the first opportunity for me to "snap out of it", and it is heaven-sent.

    I have the Akubra (for you other guys, that's a hat), the shorts and the sandals.
    I'm going to see an old drinking buddy (who is still a bachelor) and he's threatened to teach me to fish for Barramundi.
    It's going to be sunny and dry.
    What more could I possibly want?

    I'm already planning the next trip.................

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  30. Omexa

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    Hi Paul, I forgot this one. Regards Ray
     
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    Hi Ray,

    What about the funnel-webs?

    Regards,

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    #33 leeinv66, Jul 20, 2017
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    Best add Wombat to that list. They will have you skidding down the road on your roof before you know what is happening. Hitting one of them is like running into a tree stump.
     
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    Well if you are fishing for Barra, you only need to watch for sea snakes, box jelly's and salties ;)
     
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    I should add this one. About 20 plus years ago a friend of mine who worked at the NT Parliament (Hansard) edited a book "Australia's Dangerous Animals-Creatures" I am not sure of the exact name, although I did read it from the Palmerston Library. One Animal that was not included in the Book was the Domestic Cat. What happened was my friend was weeding in his front Garden and the playful Cat scratched him. He contracted melioidosis and a few months later he died after losing a great amount of weight. Regards Ray
     
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    The thing about wombats is that being nocturnal and dark coloured, if you think the road is moving, you aren't tripping on acid but you will be tripping over a wombat if you don't stop.

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    Feral cats and foxes are clearly the most dangerous animals in Australia.
     
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    There are a number of funnel-web spiders and not a lot is known about most of them. The Sydney funnel-web is restricted to a short section of the coastline around Sydney and is the one that has in the past caused deaths. The male is the most to be feared as it wanders in summer storms and is fond of getting into clothes that have been dropped on the floor. The female stays in her burrow and AFIK is not known to have caused deaths.

    Spider antivenine has been in use for quite a while and no death has occurred from a redback or funnel-web since around 1981.
     
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    OK
    Here's the up-to-date list:

    Grey Nomads
    Sea snakes
    Inland taipan
    All the other snakes
    Funnel-web spiders and the other spiders which eat them
    All the other spiders
    Blue-ringed octopus
    Box jellies
    Buffalo,
    Cows,
    Feral Brumbies,
    Kangaroos,
    Feral Donkeys
    Feral Camels
    Dingos
    Road trains
    Bunyips
    Cyclists with trailers
    Salties
    Scorpion fish
    Stinging stonefish
    UFOs
    Wombats

    and
    The greater bearded horologist

    I could still change my mind.................

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    You could switch to New Zealand but there they have Hobbits, and all manner of strange middle earth things.
     
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    Hi, after some searching I found this:The Northern Territory government is actively considering a number of options for ...... Further on in that question, I have the Hansard rush here, the member for ...... I would like to advise members of the House of the passing of David Underhill.
    Australia's Dangerous Creatures is a well known Reader's Digest publication detailing an extensive amount of information on dangerous Australian flora and fauna. It contains sections on everything from squids to mushrooms, sharks, octopus, scrub typhus and much more! It features a huge amount of text, complimented by some brilliant photography. Contributors include Harold Cogger, Struan Sutherland, Gunther Schmida, John Weigel, John Cann and Steve Swanson.
    Text by David Underhill. Principal Editorial Consultant - Struan K. Sutherland. 368 pages. 1993 (5th edition). Hardcover. ISBN - 0864380186.
     
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    Paul, you left Ned Kelly off the list, and the Australian Immigration Service ...
     
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    Hi Paul, the Ghost of Ned Kelly roams far and wide. Regards Ray Ned Kelly.jpg DSC00463.jpg
     
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    Makes me think of Mick Jagger, who played Ned Kelly in a 1970 movie.
     
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    in addition the paralysis tick should deserve a mention.

    I see no dropbears..

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    Probably a bunyip.
     
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    I will run this anecdote by you.

    I recently drove from home to Noosa Heads and back during the past fortnight. This journey entailed 3,600 km. 600 km into the trip I was trailing a double bogey fuel tanker into Coonabarabran in a 70 kmph zone. Two other cars overtook both myself and the tanker as they didn't want to travel at 70 kmph. One instant I was fully aware of everything and driving safely, the next I was in a dreamlike state parting what looked like a rusty fence and landing in a garden slowly floating down pushing small ttrees out of the way. What?! What happened? The common parlance is microsleep. Two seconds is all it took for me to be aware that I was no longer driving down the road and now encamped in someone's garden. In that time I'd veered to the right across what is normally bumper to bumper road trains coming at you at that time of day and through a disused drive through carwash and on over the fence, into the garden. I didn't hear a sound until the car was almost stopped. I only took control of the car after that by applying brakes and steering to avoid a telegraph pole. Sitting in the car, I couldn't see much damage. The engine was still running. It wasn't going anywhere other than on a tow truck though.

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    the two red X show where I mounted the gutter. Note that if I had swerved left all I had was a soild gum tree to hit. Now these are known to be deadly!

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    the next place my wheels landed.

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    pushed my way through here.

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    made a new path into the garden.

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    Apologies for the large number of bad photos but I was too shaken up to think about my photography. I was lucky that I was in the Triton because the small white car seen in the first image, a Toyota corolla, took me on the remaining 2,900 km journey. Most of which was at night and half of that in fog so thick I could barely see. I only saw one kangaroo the whole trip, sitting right in the middle of the road as I came over a low crest at 120 kliks. The ABS braking got a workout and the kangaroo survived without a blemish. In the middle of the night I was detoured around an incident where a couple had run off the road into a parked road train and died at the scene.. Again, it was black icy conditions and probably driver fatigue. So I'm going to add long road distances driver fatigue and microsleep as more dangerous than any of the above list.
     
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