Cuckoo clock with battery winder?

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  1. timelyrestorations

    timelyrestorations Registered User
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    Just picked this one up. An 8 day hunter style with the fancy wooden weights. Upon opening the back, I found what looks to be some sort of auto winder, though I can't see how it would work if this is indeed it's purpose. Perhaps there is a part or parts missing? Has anyone seen anything similar in a cuckoo clock? This is a first for me!
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    Doug

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  2. Uhralt

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    I don't know either what it is but it seems unlikely that a single mechanism winds all 3 weights. Maybe there is or was some automaton animation that is/was moved by the mechanism? Or maybe it creates a sound? What happens when you power it up?

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  3. timelyrestorations

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    The motor runs and turns the wheel at the top right, but does not seem to do much else.
     
  4. Uhralt

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    What happens when you turn the big white wheel manually?
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  5. Isaac

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    Very curious design. What do the brownish wires in the corner of your case lead to? If you find out what is supposed to trigger the mechanism, you'll have your answer most likely.
     
  6. Willie X

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    #6 Willie X, Apr 3, 2019
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    The motor/gear train turns the white gear with cam lobes that actuates the steel bell crank that pushes the spring on whatever the heck that object is to the lower left !

    It looks as if the trigger wires go down to the MB? So, my guess is that the unknown devise (held in by two philips screws) adds some type of percussion sound to the MB.

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    I think that the object to the lower left is a brush holder for the motor.
     
  8. Willie X

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    I'm with Urhalt, spark that puppy up and see what happens ... unfortunately stuff like this often has a broken plastic part. :( Willie X
     
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    A curious hybrid!

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  10. TEACLOCKS

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    IS that a magnet to the left of the Elect. motor :???:??
     
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    I don't see any Bellows ?
    Is that thing make the cuckoo noise "sound"
     
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    Sorry now I see one.
     
  13. G J M

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    I have seen a similar setup in a mechanical music mechanism.
    It was spring driven and it turned a large wheel which raised an arm pushing on a bellow making a low tuba like sound.
    The bellow was a round disk much like the black one in the lower left. Of course the arrangement was different and the bellow was larger and more resembled the cuckoo bellows in that it appeared to be made of a cloth material.
    Like stated before one of the plastic wheels may be broken or slipping and try manually turning the wheel or push in on what looks to be the bellow.
    I might be way off base but that is my best hobbyist guess.

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  14. Willie X

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    If the steel bell crank is not moving and the white gear is moving, I think you will find a broken override clutch inside that white gear assembly. This would probably be necessary for precice timing of whatever noise that mystery part makes. Willie X
     
  15. timelyrestorations

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    So here is the "device" out of the case. As mentioned by some of the previous posters, it should make some sort of sound. Unfortunately, the rubber diaphragm is old and torn. Now to figure out where to get a replacement?!

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  16. Burkhard Rasch

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    I´m sure there is no original replacement part available , but what comes to my mind is to make one from liquid silicone.Take that thingy of and make a "positive" model of it from wood,clay or plasticine or whatever.Dip it into liquid silicone till the coats have built up to the original thickness,cut and peel of and glue into the metal base,should work...
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  17. Willie X

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    There may be a new one, or a NOS one out there somewhere ... I hope you can find one. You may be able to find someone who can help you search the German web sites. Willie X
     
  18. Uhralt

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    #18 Uhralt, Apr 5, 2019
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    It looks to me that it might be supposed to make a hammering sound, with pauses, like a woodpecker....I've got the impression by looking at the big white wheel and the lever it triggers.

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  19. Willie X

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    Probably the usual 3/4 time waltz beat, like the Oom-pa bands from the way back. Willie X
     
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    Oom-pa! :mallet:I could not for the life of me remember what the style of music I was babbling about is called.
    I knew it was 3/4 time but I couldn't get past it being a waltz and knew that wasn't right.
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