Help Cuckoo clock repair

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  1. Robert Horneman

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    I have a three train musical cuckoo. The music and cuckoo play at the same time. How do I adjust that? Also any books ,videos that explain/ show how to reassemble and adjust the movement after cleaning?
     
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    Typically, there is a wire or similar that blocks the fan on the governor just before the hour and holds the music until the strike finishes. Then it drops out to allow the music to play. This is a supper fine adjustment as too much and the music won't play and too little and it is what you have now.
    Hope this helps.
     
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    I have the Karl Kochmann book, balcomb books and just received this one. Bought it off eBay. I should’ve bought this one a long while ago. I’ve already done things in this book with the help of the forum....

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    That's a great video, THT! Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Does that 3 train cuckoo mean all 3 trains are between 2 plates? Similar to a grandfather's movement?
     
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    Usually not, unless it's a quail cuckoo. The music box is usually separate, and just activated by the usual two train cuckoo movement.
     
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    Well, I was asking the original poster that question because he said it was a three train movement and that would surely change the answer. But, thanks for the answer SB
     
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    Yep, understood that, dan. I was just clarifying the reason for your question so our OP would see where you were going. I should have left out the first two words. :D
     
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    Books and videos are great investments. I am always on the hunt for good books in the horology hobby.
     
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  11. Robert Horneman

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    Yes looking from the back, striking on the left ,motion in the middle and music on the right.
     
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    Well then, much of what's been stated so far is not too helpful :) The principle is the same though ... something has to hold the music train during the strike, and then release it. It's probably a stop pin, and it may have broken off. Look at the top 2 or 3 wheels of the music train and see if you can see a spot that looks like it used to have a pin attached. And post a pic of the front of the movement for us.
     
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    #14 JimmyOz, Mar 2, 2020
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    Does the movement look like the one below. If so, and it has been a while since I have had to work on this type so it is from memory and not to good. Anyway, you see the cam with the pin in it, that can be adjusted, run the cuckoo and see that the black hook lever (hiden under the wheel in the photo) should move down to engage the pin on the cam, just adjust the cam till it holds, when the cuckoo stops it should relase the hook and the music plays. If this is the right movement just fiddle with it a bit as it may have to engage the hook when the cuckoo sets, however not sure? Cuckoo-Clock-Movement-Regula-701-Musical-Movement-_57.jpg
     
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    Gosh, those things are a nightmare to get right. There's a wire running inside the plates between the strike and music side. A cam inside regulates the warn and release, and if it's worn even a little it will be impossible to get the warn and release right. It's one of the few clocks I've worked on that I just gave up trying to fix. I'm not sure if I still have it after my recent move.
     
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    Yes they are, lucky they don't show up to often had about 4 in 10 years to do, they are on the more expensive cuckoo clocks. As I said you have to fiddle with it a bit to get it right, although abuse does not help I seem to remember giving the movements a lot :argument: :banghead:
     
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    Oh, THAT one. With the flying fan. :eek:
     

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