Cuckoo clock carousel problem

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  1. Kipster

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    Hi all- general question regarding drive gear for musical carousel.
    Unable to make carousel rotate. Which way should the black gear attach? I tied multiple ways and the black gear is not turning the carousel. Thanks DB

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    #2 shutterbug, Aug 12, 2019
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    From what I can see, it should move CW as when looking at the first pic. If the music box works without turning it, you have a cracked pinion.
    Of course it will be moving CCW when you hold it upright.
    Usually the problem is the plastic pinion gear (below the canister in pic one) that is cracked, and the music box won't run. In that case, you can get a new regulator. It will need to be tweaked to work right. One I replaced last week had to be modified greatly. I lifted the main activation arm with a 3mm high washer and had to bend the shut off tab to match the new circumstances.
     
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    What keeps the plastic pinion gear attached. Is it pressure pressed?
     
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    Show us the way it all mounts in the case. Most carousels are not direct drive.
     
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    I believe it is pressed on. I don't try fixing those. It's easier to replace the whole unit. Here are some examples. Be sure to get the right one :)
     
  6. Kipster

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    Thanks everyone.

    I am attaching a few more pictures.
    First question-which side should the black pinion gear be seated? The gear does not look cracked. Also, I don’t see a problem with the pinion that it attaches to. The gear turns, however when I attach the carousel. The black gear won’t turn.
    Second question-the white plastic gear on the governor is cracked? How do you determine which Governor size?

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    I think the pinion side will go up, to interact with the carousel. You have to count the teeth on the pinion and match it, or it will run either too fast or painfully slow.
     
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    #8 Kipster, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:20 PM
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    Exactly what item do you count the teeth. Could you show me a picture. Is it a part on the governor?

    Changing subject- the black pinion gear works the larger gear on the carousel. I don’t know if the small gear on the black gear pinion does anything. I’ll show another picture.

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    You may consider just replacing the plastic pinion that's cracked. I believe that some of the suppliers sell them.
     
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    What Vernon said.
    So that pinion in the first pic appears to be more of a spacer than anything. I'd put it on just as you have it in the pic.
     
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    The pinion gear is the smaller gear correct. The arrow is kind of pointing at both gears? Also, I have not seen the small plastic gear for sale. Do you happen to know which supplier?
     
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    Yes the smaller one. You might check black forest imports. That one is made of metal. I assume that it should fit. Someone here had purchased plastic ones but not sure where they got them.
     
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    Thank you everyone for your input.
     

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