crystal regulator with internal figure?

bruce linde

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my clock mentor has a lovely crystal regulator with a figure of (i think) anubis seated in front of the pendulum. is/was this a thing?

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i had never seen a similar CR before and was taking it in when he commented, "looks like he's going to the bathroom"... which made me laugh and inspired this photoshoppage:

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my clock mentor has a lovely crystal regulator with a figure of (i think) anubis seated in front of the pendulum. is/was this a thing?

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i had never seen a similar CR before and was taking it in when he commented, "looks like he's going to the bathroom"... which made me laugh and inspired this photoshoppage:

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Why am I not surprised by your scatological reference?

Anubis? Maybe, but here's what comes to mind when I think of Anubis. This image from the tomb of Rameses I:

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Usually shown standing, not seated. The garb of the figure in the clock is not what I would expect either.

It is, in my rather limited experienced with clocks like this, unusual. I have seen crystal regulators with figures or a bust mounted on top, but not an internal figurine.

Interesting.

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Seems very unusual for a French crystal regulator to have a figure in the bottom of the clock, it would detract from the nice mercury pendulum.
 

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just sharing, guys... unbranded, figure looks to be original to the clock, maybe a 30-day?

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There is something quite unusual about that movement. It certainly isn't your ordinary run of the mill roulant. Interesting!
 

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just heard from my mentor… He says he winds it on New Year’s Day every year and last time it ran for 11 months… Wow!
 

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Interesting clock. The figure looks maybe Roman and I've not seen one inside a four glass clock before. Nor have I seen one with a movement with such a large external spring barrel.
 

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the roll of toilet paper is a really nice touch. lol. i guess we can call this the "outhouse clock". maybe the purpose was to remind it's owner it was time to empty his bowels? with that said, the movement is indeed very interesting. don't see many of these with no strike train.
 

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It would be interesting to see how the figure is mounted (probably with a screw from the bottom) and how this screw and its threads look like. Are they period?
The movement is indeed very interesting. A year runner? What kind of escapement does it have?

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i've inquired, will report back.... he may not want to stop it and take it apart.
 

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I'm more interested in the movement train and spring, it is more than likely to have an anchor or Brocot escapement.
 

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uh... you can see the brocot in the photos, yes? also... just got this from the owner:

“Brocot escapement, jeweled pallets. Mercury pendulum. Only marks are on the back plate; A 630, 19-A. All screws appear original. The case has been re plated.”
 

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All I can say is I don't see the escapement type in the photos but I'm not bothered, the interesting thing about this movement is the train and the spring if it runs for 11 months.
 

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In Eastern Orthodox iconography (and sometimes in the Western), Saint Christopher is sometimes represented with the head of a dog. The background to the dog-headed Christopher is laid in the reign of the Emperor Diocletian, when a man named Reprebus, Rebrebus or Reprobus was captured in combat against tribes dwelling to the west of Egypt in Cyrenaica. To the unit of soldiers, according to the hagiographic narrative, was assigned the name numerus Marmaritarum or "Unit of the Marmaritae", which suggests an otherwise-unidentified "Marmaritae" (perhaps the same as the Marmaricae Berber tribe of Cyrenaica). He was reported to be of enormous size, with the head of a dog instead of a man, apparently a characteristic of the Marmaritae. This Byzantine depiction of St. Christopher as dog-headed possibly resulted from their misinterpretation of the Latin term Cananeus (Canaanite) to read canineus (canine).

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In Eastern Orthodox iconography (and sometimes in the Western), Saint Christopher is sometimes represented with the head of a dog. The background to the dog-headed Christopher is laid in the reign of the Emperor Diocletian, when a man named Reprebus, Rebrebus or Reprobus was captured in combat against tribes dwelling to the west of Egypt in Cyrenaica. To the unit of soldiers, according to the hagiographic narrative, was assigned the name numerus Marmaritarum or "Unit of the Marmaritae", which suggests an otherwise-unidentified "Marmaritae" (perhaps the same as the Marmaricae Berber tribe of Cyrenaica). He was reported to be of enormous size, with the head of a dog instead of a man, apparently a characteristic of the Marmaritae. This Byzantine depiction of St. Christopher as dog-headed possibly resulted from their misinterpretation of the Latin term Cananeus (Canaanite) to read canineus (canine).

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That's REALLY interesting!!

Well done!

So I guess the statue isn't of Goofy, huh:^?

RM
 

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uh... you can see the brocot in the photos, yes? also... just got this from the owner:

“Brocot escapement, jeweled pallets. Mercury pendulum. Only marks are on the back plate; A 630, 19-A. All screws appear original. The case has been re plated.”
Does your mentor mention how accurate the movement is over the course of an 11 month winding?
I've never seen anything like it before. I bet the NAWCC''s Museum would love to add it to their collection.
 

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Maybe it's Speyer 's representation of St. Christopher (scroll about half way down).


Otherwise, maybe Pontius Toilet - er, PIlate.
 

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It belongs in the Loo-vre
 

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....it’s on the large side and seems well-made. i love that it’s a year runner and want it. i doubt that he’d part w it, though.
I'm with you Bruce Tech.

We really enjoy Crystal Regulators and would love to have this unusual clock in our collection. Being that it appears to be very rare, it would probably out of our price range though.

Whatever additional information you can discover and share (who made it and when for example) would be appreciated.

Thanks for sharing.

Bruce
 

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