Could someone help me figure out more information about this John Wanamaker grandmother clock I have

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  1. mad555

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    #1 mad555, Jul 15, 2019
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    I have a John Wanamaker grandmother clock made in Germany. That is the only information that I understand about the item I have. I was hoping some of the more knowledgeable grandfather/ grandmother clock Enthusiasts on this forum could help me figure out more information about this grandmother clock. I could not find any other information when searching the internet on my own .
    What era was this grandfather clock made?
    Is this a rare grandfather clock?
    What kind of wood does the clock look like it's made out of?
    How many weights does this clock hold?
    Any other pertinent information is appreciated.

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  2. upstateny

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    OK, I may be able to help you out as I have the very same clock!

    Clock was made in the 40s or before but after 1900.
    Not particulary rare but very well made
    Most were made of cherry or some other wood stained to look like cherry.
    Clock is a spring driven Westminster chime so does not use weights.
    Movement is an Urgos.
     
  3. mad555

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    Thank you very much for that information. That is very helpful. You said it does not use weights but there is an attachment for a weight and there is a weight on the clock. Is that just for show?
    How do I get this clock to start working? If it is spring driven does that mean it wines up?
     
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    You refer to a weight, in your next to last picture you show what might be called a weight, however it is the pendulum. Mine uses the same sort of cylindrical pendulum bob.

    Yes the clock winds up using a key. Do you have the appropriate key? In not, your local clock shop can help you out. You wind the clock up using the key through the three holes in the dial. Then open the waist door and give the pendulum a push. Make sure the clock is level and plumb or it will have difficulty running.
     
  5. lpbp

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    What you are calling a weight, is the pendulum.
     
  6. mad555

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    Amazing! Thank you so much for this information. unless the key is within the clock itself then I do not have the key. You have been amazing help.
     
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    Okay I did not realize that. All the other pictures I see have a round pendulum looking peace and then two or three of these cylinder pieces that look like weights.
     
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    Have a look at the inside bottom of the case key may be there, mine has a hook inside the waist door that the key hangs from, so have a look there also.
     
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    I know exactly what you're talking about and the key is in there. It's actually hanging from the top near the internal mechanisms.
     
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    #10 upstateny, Jul 15, 2019
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    Cool! So you have the key! The three holes in the front of the dial are Strike left, Time center, and Chime right. They wind up in a clockwise direction. You can wind any or all but when trying to get a clock to go after moving I wind only the Time center. Once the clock is running consistantly you can start messing with the chimes. Do not turn the hands backwards as that can mess up some older clocks.
     
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    Thank you ! will do. I sent you a private message. Let me know if you can reply to that message I sent you.
     
  12. upstateny

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    Where are you located in the USA? Wannamaker had a department store in Philly, his clocks went mostly to the northeast.
     
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    Cherry Hill New Jersey which is 20 minutes from Philly. This was literally my grandmother's grandmother clock. LOL she lived in South Philly since 1921 so I'm sure she got it from the Department Store.
     
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    Well, then you should keep it. The movement used in this particular model is no longer made. Urgos went out of business some time ago, Hermle makes replacements for some of the Urgos movements but not this one. Perhaps in the future one of your offspring may want their great grandmothers clock.

    Clocks literally whitness the passage of time through the lives of people.
     
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    Yes they do. If they could talk they would be the best storytellers
     

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