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CZHACK

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Did Columbus make a single sunk (seconds) dial Time King? I am considering a purchase but it is not double sunk and may be a replacement dial since Shugart only lists double sunk dials. Also, can anyone direct me to examples of Zenith split seconds as I recently acquired one and it is not listed. Thanks. Mike
 

Fred Hansen

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The Time Kings I have owned have had double-sunk dials marked ...

"New Columbus Time King, 21 Jewels"

If no one beats me to it I will post a photo here but may be at least a few days so if anyone can put one up sooner that would be great.

Fred
 

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This movement's dial has been switched, probably due to damage the double sunk Col dials usually have.
 

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Sam - I cannot share photos as the listing is live.
Fred and Jon - As I expected but good to have confirmation.

Anyone seen a Zenith split second chronograph - otherwise Shugart list is not complete for that maker.

Mike
 

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CZHACK:

On page 22 of the book, History and Products of the Columbus Watch Company, [colour=red]Greg Frauenhoff[/colour], Sedalia, CO, 2003 (still in print), there is a reprint from an August 1895 New Columbus Watch Co. catalog which describes the Time King as having a "... hard enameled, double sunk, Red marginal figured Roman or Arabic Dial ..."
 

Jon Hanson

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WHERE is the DATA BASE--THE FREE ONE, Sam?

Do you have a link?
 

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Sam:

No, based on the information in the data base that Ed and I maintain, there are Time King movmenents bearing serial numbers around 351,100 - 351,650 (see the April 2003 Bulletin, page 331). These serial number intermix with those of some Ruby grade movements. Then the Time King starts off the 500,000 series with a run 500,001 - 501,000 (see the June 2003 Bulletin, page 361). For what its worth, the movement cut in the August 1895 catalog has serial number 500002. The next run, 501,001 - 501,500 are Ruby grade movements. By the way, the movement cut in that 1895 catalog is serial number 309229.

However, these serial numbers of high grade watches in the 500,000 series are not in sequence with the rest the Columbus serial numbers. Later production in the neighborhood of 350,000 and above then occured simultaneously with those the 500,000 series.
 

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Jon said:
WHERE is the DATA BASE--THE FREE ONE, Sam?

Do you have a link?
 

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kirxklox said:
I only find 4 known in the 351,xxx range. The REST are in RUNS in the 500,000.
I WOULD LIKE TO VIEW ONE OF THE FIRST RUN EXMPLES.........
 

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Here is one I owned a few years ago that had the marked double-sunk dial ...

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Fred
 

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Fred, I have this exact face on my pocketwatch, a little different minute and hour hand... and the watch is running and in very nice condition... I think it was my great-grandfather's... and I think he was a boat captain on the Chattahoochee River in Georgia... What do you know about the watch?
 

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I am always a bit envious of Fred's great pictures.

Jake, even though this watch now lives fairly close to the Hooch (local name for the Chattahoochee) it has never been on the river.
He is mine, I have had it for quite a few years.

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You've found a nice watch!

Thanks for showing it to us.
 
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