Colonial Mfg. Co. Grandmother's Clock

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  1. Denicola

    Denicola Registered User

    Mar 18, 2017
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    We have a Colonial Mfg Co grandmother's clock, No. 1327 stenciled on the back, and what looks like number 70991327-1 handwritten in chalk on the back. I know that it has been said that the first two digits represent the year of manufacture, but the clock was in the previous owner's possession since at least the 1950s-1960s. The first two digits might instead be 10 instead of 70. Inside the mechanism reads Kienzle No.77633. Photo attached. Wondering when it IMG_0795.jpg was made.
     
  2. Andy Dervan

    Andy Dervan Registered User

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    Hello,

    It is difficult to identify a clock based on partial photograph; we need to see the entire clock.

    Colonial stenciled on the back of the clock: model number and cutting number (number of clocks planned for that run)

    I would ignore any chalk writing as spurious. Colonial did not begin putting manufacturing date information until 1970s and it was a metal tag not chalk.

    It is listed in Colonial Manufacturing Co. 1919/1920 catalog, so I would believe it was produced 1918 - 1923 as Colonial was routinely changing its product offering.

    Andy Dervan
     
  3. Denicola

    Denicola Registered User

    Mar 18, 2017
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    Thanks so much for the help. Here's a photo with the full size shown.
     
  4. Denicola

    Denicola Registered User

    Mar 18, 2017
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    Don't know if photounattached, so I am trying again.
     
  5. Denicola

    Denicola Registered User

    Mar 18, 2017
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    IMG_0797.jpg . Maybe third time a charm.
     
  6. harold bain

    harold bain Forums Administrator

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    It is missing two finials on top.
     
  7. Tinker Dwight

    Tinker Dwight Registered User

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    1327 is the main model name. Colonial clocks often came with two or three
    different movement options and sometimes optional dials as well.
    They would all share the same model name.
    For a particular model, the wood was usually of the same type but some
    were even offered in different woods but the same pattern for the cuts
    of the wood.
    Colonial liked using mahogany. Most of their clocks were done in mahogany
    but there were some oak and I believe even some others in things like cherry.
    Tinker Dwight
     
  8. Denicola

    Denicola Registered User

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    Thanks. Yes, I thought something was broken off at each end of the decoration on top.

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    Thank you very much for the information. It looks like mahogany to me.
     
  9. Dave T

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    I took the liberty to enhance the picture up, so we can see the wood. It's a nice case with good proportions, appears to me to be mahogany. A thorough cleaning of the case will brighten it up.
    [​IMG]
     

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  10. Andy Dervan

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    Hello,

    The clock is correct; it had only one finial. Fortunately it has survived well and is almost 100 years old.

    Andy Dervan
     
  11. harold bain

    harold bain Forums Administrator

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    Andy, Tran Duy Ly's Longcase Clocks And Standing Regulators shows this clock model with 3 finials. The poster notes that "I thought something was broken off at each end of the decoration on top."
     
  12. Denicola

    Denicola Registered User

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    In looking at it again, it doesn't seem like anything was broken off. Instead it looks like there were holes drilled on each side where maybe some decorative piece might have been inserted at one time.
     
  13. harold bain

    harold bain Forums Administrator

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    Yep, that is where the finials would have gone.
     
  14. Terry C.

    Terry C. Registered User

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    Denicola,

    Your pictures were great! Here is an image of model 1327 from Colonial's 1919-20 catalog.

    Enjoy,

    Terry
     

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  15. Denicola

    Denicola Registered User

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    Thanks. Happened to find another picture online that looks like the same one. IMG_0798.PNG
     
  16. Tinker Dwight

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    You might find a friend with a wood lathe that could turn
    some of these for you. The picture look like they were just wood finish
    and color to match the clock.
    Tinker Dwight
     
  17. Dave T

    Dave T Registered User

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  18. Andy Dervan

    Andy Dervan Registered User

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    Hello,

    I stand corrected, unfortunately here are two small pieces missing from the center finial.

    Andy
     
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