Colonial Clock information

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  1. J.Zaneski

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    Recently, we were left a Colonial clock by our uncle, and I am trying to find out more about it. I have been told that it is a wall hung grandfather clock with a german movement. It looks just like a grandfather clock but without the base. It is marked Colonial Mfg, on the clock face it says colonia. S/N is 712676, model 127, movement 132, dial is DC. Can anyone tell me about this clock? Its age? Value? We don't intend on selling it. It is a beautiful clock, and keeps excellent time. Thank you for your help.
     
  2. bruce linde

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    i have a 3 bedroom house, with two bathrooms... what can you tell me about it? i don't intend on selling it. it's very comfortable. :cool:

    seriously, we need photos in order to provide informed comments... and every picture is worth a thousand words.

    does the bottom of the clock perhaps have screw holes or even the remains of wood pegs that might have seated onto a base? it would also help to know how often your uncle serviced the clock, and when the last service was.

    oh... and what does 'dial is DC' mean?
     
  3. new2clocks

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    J. Z.,

    Welcome to the message board!

    We have a great group of folks here who are more than happy to assist you, and they should be along shortly. Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Colonials, but we have folks here who know quite a bit.

    We are not allowed to discuss values on this section of the board, but there is a section titled "What is this clock worth?" It is available for a small fee.

    But let's not put the cart before the horse. Whether your questions are answered on this part of the board or the other part that I mentioned (or both), pictures of your clock will be necessary to provide you with the best, most comprehensive information. Let's see exactly what you have! We will also prefer to see pictures of the movement. If you are not comfortable removing the movement, someone hear will walk you through it.

    Again, welcome to the board!

    Regards.
     
  4. J.Zaneski

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    #4 J.Zaneski, Aug 10, 2017
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    View attachment 353137 Sorry for the picture quality. The clock repair person said there was no date or s/n on the movement. Would rather not take the cover off, it is not easy to do without removing the clock from the wall. Thanks again for any information you might be able to provide. My wife recalls that her uncle and aunt always had the clock hanging since the early 60's. not sure if that helps or not
     
  5. bruce linde

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    jz -

    that helps, but it's very blurry... can we get bigger/better quality images?

    definitely a wall clock and not a grandfather clock...
     
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  7. Tinker Dwight

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    My understanding is that these clocks were made in the later
    years of Colonial's clock making, when they were trying different
    styles of clocks. The serial numbers on the case had the date
    in them. The clock would have been made in 1971.
    The movement was most likely a Urgos but may have been a Hermle.
    The case was made in the USA.
    Tinker Dwight
     
  8. J.Zaneski

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    Thank you Tinker for the information. We thought it was made in the 60's. Love the clock, any advice you could give to make sure it is hung securely? There is no stud in back of it, right now we have it hanging on a 50lb hook in the sheetrock, but since it fell once (I caught it luckily) I am very nervous that it might fall again.
     
  9. JTD

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    Did it fall from where you have it now? What have you got that attaches it to the wall?

    JTD
     
  10. J.Zaneski

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    yes, but I used a heavier hanger in a different spot, seems to be ok, it is the only place where we can hang it unfortunately.
     
  11. JTD

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    What have you got on the back of the clock that hooks onto the hanger?

    JTF
     
  12. J.Zaneski

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    At the top of the clock there is a flat piece of metal with a circular hole that slips over the hook on the wall
     
  13. JTD

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    And it wasn't that piece of metal that caused the fall? If so, and you now have a solid hook, I'd say you were likely o.k.

    But you might want to pencil mark the wall at the side of the clock to make sure you can level it back in beat each time you wind it. Or put a pushpin in.

    JTD
     
  14. Tinker Dwight

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    #14 Tinker Dwight, Aug 11, 2017
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    If the hook you have is any kind of picture hanger, it is not strong
    enough to hang this clock. It should have a large screw into a stud
    in the wall.
    If it is hanging on sheet rock, it will eventually fall, regardless of the
    rating of the hanger.
    If you don't have a stud in the right place, you can mount a piece of
    plywood across two studs and attach the clock to that.
    Pictures are not wound. That makes a big difference in how strong
    the attachment to the wall needs to be.
    Clocks get older as we get older for some reason. We had one person
    that had a Colonial clock made in the mid 1920's. This was based on the
    trade mark that was registered by the maker of the clock movement.
    That person insisted that it was made pre-1900. I told her that couldn't
    be because the person that made the clock movement hadn't even
    started the company by then ( I think he was too young ).
    The response was that I was calling their dead relative a liar.
    She was insulted. What can I say.
    Tinker Dwight
     
  15. J.Zaneski

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    Thanks to all of you for the information
     
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